2 oz Remington Style Triggers

[StephenPerry]

Shooters
OK, I have a Jewell trigger on all my BR guns. I also have 5 Remington type converted triggers. These are of Remington design. Several makers of triggers are of Remington design. Some of the triggers made are Hart, Shilen, Remington. The conversions of the Remington are Burns, Davidson, Miller. There are more that I don't know of. Otteson's book on actions and triggers is well worth reading. All of Otteson's articles can be found in Rifle magazine the early copies.
Before Jewell trigger ruled the roost. Triggers with the Remington footprint were all called 2 oz triggers not quite sure they all were but enough trigger for the competitors. There have to be hundreds if not thousands of these triggers around. If you run across one you will know them by the third lever that defines them. Prices depends on how the seller perceives you. I would say $50 is tops for a used Remington 2 oz. If you buy one keep them clean I mean real clean. Several lighter fluid baths and another one every 500 rds should do it.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR

 

[StephenPerry]

Seems this Thread got blasted off the top less than 5 minutes after being Posted. Wanna give some guys a chance to comment on this trigger Thread. I already answered one e-mail from a guy with a Burns trigger.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR

 

[Cheechako]

Stephen

A two ounce Remington is a very good trigger if you can get it adjusted properly and keep it adjusted. The Shilen is basically a two ounce Remington. The trouble is in the "keep adjusted" part. It seems like they always want to creep, overtravel, or increase weight just when you think you have them where you want them. The Shilens seem to be susceptable to creep for some reasons.

To a shooter who has used only factory triggers, a two ounce Remington seems like the ultimate. But to guys like you and me who have been spoiled by Jewels we can tell the difference.

Anyway, I make my own by installing a third lever in a standard Remington trigger and I have a couple of them right now on my prairie dog rifles. But they are not a Jewel. If I had to buy one I'm not sure I would. With a little patience and maybe another $50 bill you can often find second hand Jewels.

JMHO

Ray

 

[Forum Boss]

Ray,

You're making me feel better now. I have a Shilen on my Rimfire rifle,Hall action) and it definitely has creep and the pull weight does go up and down--not much but noticeable. And it's not real consistent from shot to shot. Sometimes the creep is bad, sometimes it's reasonably crisp. The trigger on the $750 Anschutz MPR 64 is much better. That's a really nice rimfire for the money BTW.

The Jewells I've shot have done exactly what they were supposed to do--release right NOW when you apply the adjusted-for pull weight.

 

[ConnorExum]

I didn't think a remington trigger was able to go down to two oz pull weight? I thought it was about .5 lbs at best.

 

[Cheechako]

connor

A standard Remington trigger is hard to get down to .5 pound without it getting very finicky and subject to slam fires, etc. But by adding a third lever to the system it is possible to get to 2 oz. Or at least close to 2 oz. The Jewel triggers use a completely different system of levers and springs which is why some of them can be adjusted to even less than 2 oz. But I think most shooters would agree that less than 2 oz doesn't offer much, if any, advantage. I do admit that there have been times when 2 oz seemd like 2 lbs but it is more psychological than real.

As I said earlier, the 3 lever Remingtons and all the clones are very good triggers for the average shooter who is used to a 7 lb factory let-off. On a hunting rifle, a properly adjusted factory trigger is probably preferable from a safety standpoint.

JMHO

Ray

 

[DanConzo]

I have 3 old Hart triggers made in the early 70s and one Jewell and in my opinion the Harts are every bit as good as the Jewell and have put no maintenance on them at all. I had a Shilen converted Rem trigger and gave it away. I think I'll vie for a Kelby next,no sideplates). Also had a Kenyon which was an excellent spuerb trigger but required removing too much stock.
Dan

 

[Bobs243Ackley]

Hello Everybody,

I have been using one of the Rifle Basix ERV-3 three lever triggers on my .22BR. I have it set at six ounces and it has proven to be very consistent on weight, and has been holding its adjustments. The wide trigger shoe on it makes it feel lighter than what it is. I have not had any issues with slam fires with it and the safety has been very positive.

Cordially,
Bob Blaine

 

[StephenPerry]

Dan
Like I said I have 5 Remington design 2 oz triggers. It's not easy to know which is which. I've seen a picture of the Hart so I know I have one. What I have found about the Remington design more than the Jewell is that they respond better with nore cleaning. My Jewell's are on a schedule, clean at the beginning of the season. I can feel the Jewell is a lighter trigger than the rest but all my triggers do well but must be kept clean.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR

 

[DanConzo]

Steve
The Hart 2 oz triggers have a set screw at the top of the trigger proper to move fore and aft--they were also the first Remington International triggers sold on the 40x's made by Hart. They are 2 oz pull.
Dan

 

[StephenPerry]

Dan
Hart's are great triggers I know I have one of them, I will check what you said defines a Hart over other Remington design 2 ounce triggers, maybe I have another one. In the real old days Remington and Hart because of Walker, Stekl and the Hart's were synonymous, but you knew that. Most don't know Mike Walker gave the Hart's permission to use the button rifle process that Mike and Remington developed. Hart still uses button rifling as does Remington on target barrels.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR

 

[tripcrow]

What’s the Shilen 2-6oz like? See where they run $50 less than a Jewel.
I’m looking for a bench trigger because a Rifle-Basix LV-1 that I have is supposed to go down to 8oz, but I can’t adjust it down past 12. And sometimes it feels a lot heavier than that. Is cutting down or changing the spring a safe option on this model? It’s in a hanger on a custom Rem clone action with no safety.
Is cleaning triggers with a brake parts cleaner OK? Any lube after? What kind and where abouts?

Thanks,
Bill

 

[StephenPerry]

Bill
I'm going to let others comment on Shilen and Savage triggers as I have neither. As far as cleaning triggers use only lighter fluid from the top, it has Naptha in it that acts as a lubricant for the trigger.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR