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1st class mail

well a usps first class stamp cost $0.50 and to ship the same thing fedex its $10.00.

usps flat rate box is hugely less expensive than UPS.

Personally i use the united states post office. Never have a problem with mail getting to me or.wbere i send it.

Now i do believe they should raise their prices.
 
joshb said:
The Post Office is right next to my bank and the grocery store, 5 minutes from my house. I buy a Money order , drop it in the mail and spin the wheel of chance. What the heck, I'm retired and not in a hurry.;) It sounds like Hogpatrol endured a new record! Hey Dale: I hope it wasn't the ammo for your hunt!:rolleyes:
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Josh, That ammo goes in my checked bag and only once, on the return, has the wheel not stopped in my favor.:D
 
KMart said:
The USPS does. I see Big Brown delivering to my Post Office quite regularly.
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I’m pretty sure it’s the other way around. My neighbor is a supervisor for the post office. He said that Fed Ex and UPS both farm out deliveries to the post office when they get overloaded. After all, the mail carrier comes by your house every day whether you have a delivery or not.
 
Bought an 8 ft bass boat located in WI on Ebay. Paid to have it shipped to Austin, TX ground freight. Said it'd take 5 days. 7 days later I tracked it down, and found it made it as far as Chicago and then onto a airplane to Singapore!! Figured they'd just keep it and pay me the value but no, they air freighted it back to TX. Can't imagine the retail cost of that fiasco.
 
onelastshot said:
The term, first class mail, is simply a category used by the post office to delineate a certain category of mail, nothing more nothing less. It does not prioritize the shipment or ensure the delivery time. Items sent ground class often times arrive sooner than first class, it all depends on the quantity of mail they have and the available employees on hand. In all practicable means first class mail should be prioritized and have a system in place that would ensure faster delivery. Unfortunately, the postal system is so screwed up in terms of a business model or application that even top management has lost control of the operational aspects of the company.

Postal employees are like drones, they simply go through standardized procedures take lunch at a preordained time and go home every night at the same time regardless of the volume of mail or the length of time its been sitting in the facility.

Government businesses don't worry about supply or demand or customer service or quality controls. They simply fill a void, a void that could be improved financially and in overall service by any private entity given the opportunity to compete.
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My wife is one of those folks you refer to as "DRONES". Your statement is simply not true. She is one of the hardest working people that you will ever meet. Also one of the most professional employee's you could ever ask for. She takes her 30 min lunch break just like you and back to work she goes. And for the record, the post office has not been a "government" job for years now. There are many nights she is out an hour or 2 past most peoples quitting time to insure that your mail is delivered.
Thanks
Bill
 
onelastshot said:
The term, first class mail, is simply a category used by the post office to delineate a certain category of mail, nothing more nothing less. It does not prioritize the shipment or ensure the delivery time. Items sent ground class often times arrive sooner than first class, it all depends on the quantity of mail they have and the available employees on hand. In all practicable means first class mail should be prioritized and have a system in place that would ensure faster delivery. Unfortunately, the postal system is so screwed up in terms of a business model or application that even top management has lost control of the operational aspects of the company.

Postal employees are like drones, they simply go through standardized procedures take lunch at a preordained time and go home every night at the same time regardless of the volume of mail or the length of time its been sitting in the facility.

Government businesses don't worry about supply or demand or customer service or quality controls. They simply fill a void, a void that could be improved financially and in overall service by any private entity given the opportunity to compete.
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I retired in 2006 and a few years ago I took a part time job at the Post office as a rural mail carrier. Not a great job but not a bad job. Working at the Post office really opened my eyes to how different each post office can be run by the Post master. Some are way better than others. In my opinion, rural mail carriers are not treated fairly for the most part. Routes are paid on an evaluated time, weather it take more or less time time to complete. Usually it takes more time to complete than the evaluated time and most carriers do not take a break or lunch. Right now the Post office is conducting a "Mail Count". Some offices seem to have a decrease volume while others are the same or more. This count will set the evaluated time for the next couple of years. Some carriers claim the Post office is curtailing volume to have a lower count. For 50 cents a letter, I think it is still a good deal to send something across the country.
 
RetiredArmy said:
My wife is one of those folks you refer to as "DRONES". Your statement is simply not true. She is one of the hardest working people that you will ever meet. Also one of the most professional employee's you could ever ask for. She takes her 30 min lunch break just like you and back to work she goes. And for the record, the post office has not been a "government" job for years now. There are many nights she is out an hour or 2 past most peoples quitting time to insure that your mail is delivered.
Thanks
Bill
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The USPS is my go- to shipper. I have a PO Box at a branch USPS office. I have packages delivered to a locker via USPS, UPS and Fedex. There was a screw up on a locker delivery last fall, wrong key for the locker. I called the main office. A postal rep drove 8 miles to correct the error and give me the package. This was after hours. The lady at my branch is on my Christmas card list.
 
Folks say that there is no competition, takes to long, $.50 cents is crazy. There is nothing stopping anyone from putting your letter, water bill or anything else in a Fedex, Ups, ect.... Over night delivery envelope, driving to the said company store front handing them your $20.00 Bill and going on about the rest of your day. Or you can plan ahead a little bit and save $19.50 and put it in your mail box to be picked up a day earlier. There are options!
Thanks
Bill
 
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I have been using Postal Click and ship for many yrs. Its fast efficient, boxes furnished, and I have the best route carrier on the planet. Ive only had a few lost packages in as many yrs.
All but 2 have been found. LDS
 
I really don't get the routing sometimes. I sent an envelope via FedEx from WA to CA and got a tracking text saying it had arrived in Memphis enroute to CA!
 
I have trouble getting deliveries on time through the post office. About 20% of the time, the package is "somewhere" but no one seems to know where. I placed an order from a place 175 miles away. From the time I got a shipping notification, I figured I could have walked there and back (walking only 12 hours a day at 3 mph)and got the package to my home quicker. Another package was thrown on the ground beside the mailbox because the carrier was too lazy to put it on the porch. (no dogs or anything to worry about)

Another delivery from CA to mid OH. It shipped Priority and should have been here in about 4 working days. It went to another Postal station and sat 3 days, then came to Cincinnati, OH and sat there 4 days. Then got sent back out west to Denver, CO. After that 3 days there it came back to Cincy (the main hub in the area) for another 3 days, then to Dayton, and the next day to the local post office for delivery.

You Priority package is in BFE in transit to Ohio.
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