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1k F-class / BR: 30 cal custom bullets

memilanuk

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Besides Berger (blasphemy, I know ;)) what are the serious options in the 200+/- gn range for 1k F-class and/or BR?

I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly?) that not too many people are running Hornady or Sierra at the higher level successfully. I'm aware of Hottenstein having a few products I that weight class... who else?
 


Wow. Looking at that, especially the other thread it looks like there's a lot less options out there in 30 cal than I would have thought.
 

If I have to call someone in 2024 to order bullets, brass, primers, powder or anything else that is not custom tooled just for me you will never get my money! I order custom made parts from China, Taiwan , Russia, Ukraine and seldom have to call them. I send designs via email and 1 or 2 emails latter and a wire transfer and things are good!

My time is too precious to me from 4:23AM to about 8PM EST. If I have to call you it means you did something wrong. You can purchase a car, an escort, food, machine tools, commodities, prescriptions drugs "with proper RX", living animals, from all over the world with out having to call and speak to a human! On principal alone I would not do business with anyone that requires me to call them or email them to place an order! What is next do I have to break out my old fax machine or send a telegrahm? This is not 1970's or 1980's back then I would be willing to call you or write you a letter and pay with check, money order, stamps etc....

Give me a cart and allow me to click on what you make. If there is a lead time because things are made to order put it on the page and on the cart during check out! Take my money and do not contact me unless somethign goes terrible wrong!

If he had a cart on this page I would have ordered 500 to 1000 bullets!
 
If I have to call someone in 2024 to order bullets, brass, primers, powder or anything else that is not custom tooled just for me you will never get my money! I order custom made parts from China, Taiwan , Russia, Ukraine and seldom have to call them. I send designs via email and 1 or 2 emails latter and a wire transfer and things are good!

My time is too precious to me from 4:23AM to about 8PM EST. If I have to call you it means you did something wrong. You can purchase a car, an escort, food, machine tools, commodities, prescriptions drugs "with proper RX", living animals, from all over the world with out having to call and speak to a human! On principal alone I would not do business with anyone that requires me to call them or email them to place an order! What is next do I have to break out my old fax machine or send a telegrahm? This is not 1970's or 1980's back then I would be willing to call you or write you a letter and pay with check, money order, stamps etc....

Give me a cart and allow me to click on what you make. If there is a lead time because things are made to order put it on the page and on the cart during check out! Take my money and do not contact me unless somethign goes terrible wrong!

If he had a cart on this page I would have ordered 500 to 1000 bullets!

Glad I'm not so busy I can't take the time to talk to nice folks, I've put customers on hold to talk to bullet makers, gunsmiths and fellow shooters.

I've bought bullets from Tom, Roy, Alex, Bart and a few others and enjoyed taking the time to chat with everyone of them.
 
If I have to call someone in 2024 to order bullets, brass, primers, powder or anything else that is not custom tooled just for me you will never get my money! I order custom made parts from China, Taiwan , Russia, Ukraine and seldom have to call them. I send designs via email and 1 or 2 emails latter and a wire transfer and things are good!

My time is too precious to me from 4:23AM to about 8PM EST. If I have to call you it means you did something wrong. You can purchase a car, an escort, food, machine tools, commodities, prescriptions drugs "with proper RX", living animals, from all over the world with out having to call and speak to a human! On principal alone I would not do business with anyone that requires me to call them or email them to place an order! What is next do I have to break out my old fax machine or send a telegrahm? This is not 1970's or 1980's back then I would be willing to call you or write you a letter and pay with check, money order, stamps etc....

Give me a cart and allow me to click on what you make. If there is a lead time because things are made to order put it on the page and on the cart during check out! Take my money and do not contact me unless somethign goes terrible wrong!

If he had a cart on this page I would have ordered 500 to 1000 bullets!
You probably couldn’t take the time to make them shoot to their potential either. Sounds like a win for everyone involved. Good luck.
 
Lots of different ways this sort of thing can go... all I'm gonna say is that when the default option is to call or email, rather than an online store (I get it, this stuff isn't the sort of thing you can just put on Etsy)... is that then the onus is on the maker to be at least minimally responsive. If I call, leave a message, or send an email, and days turn into weeks with no response... well, my business will probably be going elsewhere.


Not referring to any one maker, just a general observation.
 
Custom bullets are pretty much a waiting game, once you accept that you are going to get them when you get them it takes a lot of the drama out of the situation. You shoot something else while you wait on them whether it's another custom makers bullets or machine made bullets.

Most if not all are small operations with a limited capacity simply because quality/variances would slip if upscaled.

I'm not a very patient guy in 99% of my life but I have managed to wrap my head around how the custom bullets business works vs how buying mass produced machine made bullets works.

A fancy website is not going to streamline the custom bullets business and make production increase any significant amount and get bullets into a customers hands any quicker but it will take a significant percentage of the profit out of an already thin margin for the maker.

These people all have a similar to slightly different ordering system that they've found WORKS BEST FOR THEM to keep any orders from FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS.

Concerning any type of order I'm sure we've all been the victim of lost emails, web site problems etc so in a business with built in long lead times I'll gladly talk to a real person and know I'm "on the list" rather than find out something went wrong and I "was not on the list" months later.
 
FYI, Tom has 204s in stock, and they shoot great. I shot one sighter, made and adjustment and the next 7 went just under 1.5 vertical and 2.5 inches total at 600, with two different powder charges.

Then a 15 shot confirmation with 3 charges, holding center. 308 from a bipod. Seating and tuner up next.
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If I have to call someone in 2024 to order bullets, brass, primers, powder or anything else that is not custom tooled just for me you will never get my money! I order custom made parts from China, Taiwan , Russia, Ukraine and seldom have to call them. I send designs via email and 1 or 2 emails latter and a wire transfer and things are good!

My time is too precious to me from 4:23AM to about 8PM EST. If I have to call you it means you did something wrong. You can purchase a car, an escort, food, machine tools, commodities, prescriptions drugs "with proper RX", living animals, from all over the world with out having to call and speak to a human! On principal alone I would not do business with anyone that requires me to call them or email them to place an order! What is next do I have to break out my old fax machine or send a telegrahm? This is not 1970's or 1980's back then I would be willing to call you or write you a letter and pay with check, money order, stamps etc....

Give me a cart and allow me to click on what you make. If there is a lead time because things are made to order put it on the page and on the cart during check out! Take my money and do not contact me unless somethign goes terrible wrong!

If he had a cart on this page I would have ordered 500 to 1000 bullets!
I’m sure he’ll miss your business.
 
Lots of different ways this sort of thing can go... all I'm gonna say is that when the default option is to call or email, rather than an online store (I get it, this stuff isn't the sort of thing you can just put on Etsy)... is that then the onus is on the maker to be at least minimally responsive. If I call, leave a message, or send an email, and days turn into weeks with no response... well, my business will probably be going elsewhere.


Not referring to any one maker, just a general observation.
There's a good point made here. I've been on a waiting list for almost two years for a certain bullet. Then I discover it's in stock just by reading this thread.

I'm just thankful that there are custom makers out there that make .30 cal for long range, regardless of wait time.
 
If I have to call someone in 2024 to order bullets, brass, primers, powder or anything else that is not custom tooled just for me you will never get my money! I order custom made parts from China, Taiwan , Russia, Ukraine and seldom have to call them. I send designs via email and 1 or 2 emails latter and a wire transfer and things are good!

My time is too precious to me from 4:23AM to about 8PM EST. If I have to call you it means you did something wrong. You can purchase a car, an escort, food, machine tools, commodities, prescriptions drugs "with proper RX", living animals, from all over the world with out having to call and speak to a human! On principal alone I would not do business with anyone that requires me to call them or email them to place an order! What is next do I have to break out my old fax machine or send a telegrahm? This is not 1970's or 1980's back then I would be willing to call you or write you a letter and pay with check, money order, stamps etc....

Give me a cart and allow me to click on what you make. If there is a lead time because things are made to order put it on the page and on the cart during check out! Take my money and do not contact me unless somethign goes terrible wrong!

If he had a cart on this page I would have ordered 500 to 1000 bullets!
You’re time must not be to precious, you typed 3 paragraphs griping about having to make a phone call!!
 

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