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1911 hollow point help

1911nut said:
Sorry Hillbilly, the mags I recommended previously are for 45acp.

Wilson 9mm mags have a good reputation.

https://shopwilsoncombat.com/9mm/products/364/

I haven’t used them, I got a deal on several Pachmayer 9mm mags before Wilson had 9mm mags. All of the Pachmayer mags needed adjustments to work reliability but have held up for thousands of rounds.
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That company you originally recommended does indeed make 9mm mags also
 
I run this in my 2011 STI 9mm

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jk80 said:
several builders of high quality 1911's recommend to run 4 or 5 hundred hardball loads before expecting 100% reliability.
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I have to respectfully disagree on that recommendation. IMHO, if it takes more than 50 rds to "break it in", something's not right from the get go. Someone is cutting corners somewhere. For what the top builders charge, if it didn't shoot reliably with the first box, it goes back and keeps going back until they get it right.

The last wadgun I had built was delivered the day of one of our indoor Bullseye matches. I just picked it up and shot the match. Took nearly my first 2 slow fires to get it sighted in, but my 3rd slow fire for the NMC was a 98. It, like it's 2 predecessor's, has never had a gun related malfunction with anything from H&G 130's, H&G 68's, Lyman 460's, Zero SWC, Zero 185 JHP, Nostler 185 JHP, or 230 hardball. The first one he built for me has has nearly 85,000 rounds through it (now on it's 2nd barrel) with the same track record. All 3 are great shooters with exceptional triggers. The best one will do under 1 1/2" @ 50 yards (8 were sub 1" & had 2 fliers) and the worst one is at 2'' (it's also seen over 53k through the second barrel).

I just finished a double blind magazine test on 17 different magazines @ 50 yards out of the Ransom Rest. Found out the 2 I've been using for slow fire's are not the ones I should be using. That opens up a whole new arena for me to squander time & components on. Time much better spent dry firing.
Allen
 
Allen, my hat is off to you re your BE experience and skill.
You sound like a good guy my Giles hvy slide and I would like to hang w. I had n H&G 4 gang 68bb I put a fair amount of wheel wgts through then on to the Star lubrisizer then Tool.
I would be extremely interested in your wad gun Smith's info.
 
TAJ45 said:
Allen, my hat is off to you re your BE experience and skill.
You sound like a good guy my Giles hvy slide and I would like to hang w. I had n H&G 4 gang 68bb I put a fair amount of wheel wgts through then on to the Star lubrisizer then Tool.
I would be extremely interested in your wad gun Smith's info.
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You have a piece of history there TAJ. Mr Giles made some unbelievable good shooters. His son used to post on the Bullseye List & mentioned finding a huge stack of test targets of 45's his Dad had built. He would never send out the really great ones. He thought folks would think he was BS'n them. But he said there were numerous targets of "well under" an inch for a 10 shot group at 50 yards.

We think along the same lines. Gotta love those old San Diego H&G's. I've had the 68 both in flat base and BB along with 2 H&G 130's and a 50 for the 38's. Also using the Star's for lubing. I haven't been able to cast bullets that will shoot with the Zero 185 JHP's, but they're within 1/2" group size.

Al
 
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MrMajestic said:
Hey Al, let's not spread that Zero thing about. They are hard enough to get sometimes..shoot straight my friend.
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What do you mean "sometimes"? ;)o_O

They're never available when I get in the need/mood to load some up. Usually wind up getting them at Perry. I just use them on the long line. I feel it's squandering a valued resource to use them at 25 yds & under. Just about any good cast bullet will hold the 'x' @ 25 yds with a good 1911.
 
jk80 said:
several builders of high quality 1911's recommend to run 4 or 5 hundred hardball loads before expecting 100% reliability.
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I understand that and I am not saying I disagree...what I am saying is that a weapon that will not load the very first round when you rack the slide on a loaded magazine will absolutely not benefit from wasting 500 rounds thru it hoping it will magically be "fixed"...there's a big difference between taking a gun that is brand new out of the box and running at 98% reliability and firing it several hundred to "break it in" so you can feel good about calling it 100% and trying to simply shoot-to-repair a gun that does not work in the first place.
In the one case it will at least appear you have accomplished something, in the second it is a pipe dream, period, end of story. Don't get me wrong, if I were a LEO I would want to feel good about my gun too. But don't think for a second that just because several hundred rounds were fired thru a given weapon that it is now some zero hiccup, flawless functioning item that cannot ever jam. Sure, shooting it will help smooth things out a little and make it run easier, but if the geometry is wrong to the point it wont feed you can shoot it until the barrel melts and runs down all over your shoes and it will still not be fixed.
 
Good to have the " well under" 1" info corroborated. I will move that info from the needs to be verified side of my memory bank to "fact". It seems I remember his best performing loads were in the mid 4s of BE. That tends to be pretty stout for a wad shooter like me. I never attained the skill where I thought the load may be holding me back. :/ Now at 73, the involuntary twitches and quivers are ugly wraiths I endure. Father Time etc.
 
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[QUOTE="TAJ45, Now at 73, the involuntary twitches and quivers are ugly wraiths I endure. Father Time etc.[/QUOTE

I'm right there with you. What used to be a hard 9 &10 ring hold, now tremors make it hard to stay inside the black.
 
stork said:
[QUOTE="TAJ45, Now at 73, the involuntary twitches and quivers are ugly wraiths I endure. Father Time etc.[/QUOTE

I'm right there with you. What used to be a hard 9 &10 ring hold, now tremors make it hard to stay inside the black.
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Remember getting old is a privilege denied to many... And getting old ain't for sissies... Or gender neutral folks.. lol..
 
stork said:
I have to respectfully disagree on that recommendation. IMHO, if it takes more than 50 rds to "break it in", something's not right from the get go. Someone is cutting corners somewhere. For what the top builders charge, if it didn't shoot reliably with the first box, it goes back and keeps going back until they get it right.

The last wadgun I had built was delivered the day of one of our indoor Bullseye matches. I just picked it up and shot the match. Took nearly my first 2 slow fires to get it sighted in, but my 3rd slow fire for the NMC was a 98. It, like it's 2 predecessor's, has never had a gun related malfunction with anything from H&G 130's, H&G 68's, Lyman 460's, Zero SWC, Zero 185 JHP, Nostler 185 JHP, or 230 hardball. The first one he built for me has has nearly 85,000 rounds through it (now on it's 2nd barrel) with the same track record. All 3 are great shooters with exceptional triggers. The best one will do under 1 1/2" @ 50 yards (8 were sub 1" & had 2 fliers) and the worst one is at 2'' (it's also seen over 53k through the second barrel).

I just finished a double blind magazine test on 17 different magazines @ 50 yards out of the Ransom Rest. Found out the 2 I've been using for slow fire's are not the ones I should be using. That opens up a whole new arena for me to squander time & components on. Time much better spent dry firing.
Allen
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not trying to be a smart aleck, but maybe you should let les bear know he's doing things wrong. I'd rather shoot one in a bit than have a rattle bucket. I've built several comp guns on colt and Caspian frames and always went to the tight side of things. Whether it's right or wrong it's what I felt comfortable with. Ymmv. Shoot well.
 
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