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17 Killer Bee

drewh

drewh

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Long time 17 Killer Bee shooter, the brain child of DanC on the old Saubier board. I have always used low to mid 14's charges of RL7 in mine, and was curious what other powders people have used with success.
 
drewh said:
Long time 17 Killer Bee shooter, the brain child of DanC on the old Saubier board. I have always used low to mid 14's charges of RL7 in mine, and was curious what other powders people have used with success.
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I liked 4198 in mine with 25 gr VMax. Shooting one time with Dan and Matt in Nebr. I ran 5 dogs in a row at just over 500 yds. Dan did a great job designing it.
 
rayh said:
Dan did a great job designing it.
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ABSOLUTELY ^^^
I've always thought if Starline would make 218 Bee brass it would be something I'd build.
I'm not really interested in the Hornady stuff for now I will continue to use my W-W stash for the 17AB, 17HeBee and 218Bee. I really like the 218 Bee case as a parent case for a great varmint cartridge and hope to have a Killer Bee one day, my timing was just off. As a good friend of Dan I really should have built a 17 or 20 version of the Killer Bee, I really missed the boat on this.Glad I was able to build his 17 Predator and 20Duster though. Like Ray I would exploit the use of 4198 in the KB.
Matt
 
I always wanted to do a 20KB and never did. 17 sure sounds fun. I did just see midway has hornady brass in stock. What dies do you guys use for this?
 
Jrjones said:
I always wanted to do a 20KB and never did. 17 sure sounds fun. I did just see midway has hornady brass in stock. What dies do you guys use for this?
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When Dan did the first 17 Killer Bee, Kiff did the reamer and CH4D did the dies. When Dan showed the case on Saubier I had to have one. Kiff and CH4D filled Dan's order but made a few spares so I had no wait time. Always had a couple 17 barrels in the barrel bucket, and a few actions and several of my stock patterns so I was up and shooting in about 3 weeks. Doc Ed gave me great turn around. One thing not mentioned, there was a special logo on Dan's barrel, that was the icing on the cake. Michael my have a copy of it. It was used on the 17 and 20 version. I never did a 20 KB but bought a 19 KB reamer, just never did one. I had JLC convert the CH4D dies to bushings. The seater made a good neck sizer. Doc Ed made the Wilson seater from chamber reamer.
 
Hal I always wanted to run the 17 KB reamer in short so that 32-20 and 25-20 could be used . I wanted a 17 Bumble Bee. To honor Dan I was going to call it the 17 Super Bumble Bee Imp. Stamp that on a reloading die. Running the reamer in short would be a good solution for you guys that don't have 218 Brass but want a 17 KB, I don't think you'd lose that much case volume.
 
It is good to see the essence of Saubier is still with us here, it's awesome to see the love of small calibers still flourishing. I will have to call MontDoug and invite him here. I hope he is as well as he can be considering all that Orange crap he was exposed to in the 60s. I will always remember finding Saubiers website for the first time and then making life long friends because of it. That and the KB logo are plenty enough reason to build another small caliber.
Matt
 
I saw this thread and had a grin, Eric Mayer also produced a T shirt for the 17 & 20 Killer Bee, I'm wearing my 20 Killer Bee at the moment.
I would like to build a 20 Killer Bee but the shortage of 218 Bee brass isn't reassuring and the price of what is available is eye watering and discouraging to build anything on the 218 Bee case.

Saying that I have a 17AB, 17 HeBee and a 218 Bee, here is the 20 Killer Bee logo and font

Kiwi

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Decent brass is my holdup on doing one, that logo was it for me too, I saw it on a barrel years ago on Saubier
 
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Kiwishooter said:
I would love to have access to all the information on Saubier again. I made some great friends via Saubier and there was a lot of very pertinent info on the website for small caliber aficionados
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Down for maintenance...no worries.

Danny
 
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