14 Twist Swift and 60 Grain Bullets

[jaytee]

Recently purchased a M77 and I'm looking for good loads with a 60 grain bullet, and preferably the Nosler Partition. I realize I'm on the upper end of bullet weight with a 14 twist but I'd like to find a good load for Whitetails. Thanks!!

 

[TAJ45]

Will it even begin to group w 60s?
Maybe the chicken and the egg scenario? What are good loads vs will it even shoot "a good load."
Hope it turns out well for you.

 

[jaytee]

Will it even begin to group w 60s?
Maybe the chicken and the egg scenario? What are good loads vs will it even shoot "a good load."
Hope it turns out well for you.

We shall see!! That's part of the fun of buying a new rifle!!

 

[TAJ45]

Tang safety and red pad?

 

[Puzzaz01]

I run a 40 gn ballistic tip with H414, shoots very tight groups. When I tried going up to a 50 gn my groups opened up to about a 1 MOA, not real good for a prairie dog gun. You'll probably realize those 60gn Bullets aren't going to group very well.

Just my two cents.
Darrin

 

[Cemetery21]

60's wouldn't stabilize in an old Douglas supreme barreled Mark X I played with back in the 1970s. That doesn't mean they won't in yours - just saying.

Edit: 52 Sierras would stay well within a paper plate at 440 yards.

 

[TAJ45]

Similar to the 40 VMax 20s in a 12tw.......some do and some don't. Hoping for the best.

 

[jaytee]

Tang safety and red pad?

Yes.

 

[TAJ45]

Had two of those early 2000s. Never did wring them out. Collectors for some folks.

 

[xring]

I bought a Ruger Swift when they first came out . After a few Pdog Trips , the Accuracy was dropping . An old timer told me try a 60 Gr. stubby Bullet to prolong the Barrel life a bit . It improved Accuracy for a while longer . It was much Shorter than a Vmax . I'm thinking it might have been a Sierra .

 

[Mark W]

Sierra 63 SMP will probably shoot really good in that 1:14 Swift. I don’t think it’s a deer bullet by any stretch.

https://www.sierrabullets.com/product/22-caliber-63-gr-smp/

 

[1911nut]

I was surprised to see Nosler’s load data for 60-62g bullets in a Swift is from a 14 twist barrel.

https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/220-swift/

More faster = more stable.

If not stable enough forget whitetails, it’ll have to be mule deer above timberline at 12000 feet +

more higher = more stable

 

[AckleymanII]

60g Sierra and 63g Sierra semi point will very very accurate in the swift.

Lung shoot the deer with the 63g semi point, they will drop. I shot two does around 100 yards in a rem 700 with the 63's and they collapsed at bullet compact.

IMR 4350 with a win primer proved less than 1/2" groups.

60g Nosler partition may shoot in your rifle, be happy with 1.5" groups with this bullet and they cause massive damage on deer that are lung shot, you will probably though away the whole front end of the deer, especially if you hit a shoulder.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

The 60 grain, Sierra Flat Base HP, Varminter, stabilizes, in my 1-14 TW .22-250 Rem at the higher speeds ( over 3,500 FPS ) and IMR 4350 was, THE,. Powder to, do it ! It's quite accurate, in my gun at, 3,300 ft Elev but, probably NOT, a "good" Deer bullet ( do some real world, Ballistic Gel, Water jugs, Wet Newspaper and Coyote, Testing,.. first ! ).
For Deer, I like my Tikka T3, SS, .243 Win with, the 87 grain Berger HVLD's @ 3,150 FPS that, easily shoot, SUB 1/2 MOA ( Cloverleafs ) and I KNOW that, I won't have to track them, very far.

 

[357Mag]

Jaycee -

Howdy!

I shot my .22-35 Remington wildcat from a 24” SS Hart 1-14 5-groove for many years. .22-35 has Case capacity between that of a straight .22-250 and a .22-250 AI.

I was able to stabilize 60s as long as they were under .75” long.
My recommendation is to use temp stable powders w/ burn rate
that H4350 has; or slower.

This would include something like StaBal 5.5, IMR 4955; et al.

I shot plenty of groundhogs using WW760, and also some using H414.
For my needs and yardages, Hornady’s 55SX worked superbly.
I did shoot a few w/ custom 60s, but terminal effects did not rival results seen when shooting the 55SX ( ranges < 500yd ).
Also had great load accuracy using FED Large Magnum Rifle Match.


With regards,
357Mag

 

[Racebannon3855]

I had a 14 twist 22-250 and it shot 60 grain partitions well. I tried other heavier bullets and they actually key holed at 100. The Partition is short enough that it works.
Ken Waters used a 77 for his 220 swift pet loads. It was a hammer, he only went up to 55 grains.
Funny you should ask this question, I have been stuck on the computer 10 hours a day so I read at night. Between the old varmint hunter magazines and Pet Loads I have been thinking about a 77 in 220 Swift. No idea why I need one.

 

[Gary in MD]

I had a 14 twist 22-250 and it shot 60 grain partitions well. I tried other heavier bullets and they actually key holed at 100. The Partition is short enough that it works.
Ken Waters used a 77 for his 220 swift pet loads. It was a hammer, he only went up to 55 grains.
Funny you should ask this question, I have been stuck on the computer 10 hours a day so I read at night. Between the old varmint hunter magazines and Pet Loads I have been thinking about a 77 in 220 Swift. No idea why I need one.

Better re read Ken’s notes on the Swift.
He shot 60 grain Hornadys and 63 grain Sierras. The latter he noted as “most accurate load tested”.
I’ve worn out my copies of Pet Loads over the years, Ken was one of my favorite writers.
Gary

 

[Racebannon3855]

Better re read Ken’s notes on the Swift.
He shot 60 grain Hornadys and 63 grain Sierras. The latter he noted as “most accurate load tested”.
I’ve worn out my copies of Pet Loads over the years, Ken was one of my favorite writers.
Gary[/QUOTE

I just read the supplement to Pet Loads that came out in the early 2000s. in that one he topped out at 55 grains. I was afraid that if I went back and read the original article I’d be looking for a Swift of my own!

 

[Gary in MD]

LOL
Going back through the years and reading some of those old articles can make you want to spend some money.
I know it does for me
Gary