1035 yard bear
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I would add chasing the wife around the pool, but mine took up liking getting caught and my health can't stand it.
On the subject of health, did any of the naysayers take the time to think that long-range hunting may be the best alternative for someone that has some physical limitations. Thus, extending the time a person can enjoy hunting and the comradery It affords.
hogpatrol
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Bingo!
At my age I should know better to get involved with these kinds of debates. It like debating politics and religion. My bad.
PS: Going back into my bubble.
At my age I should know better than to get involved in these kinds of debates. It's like debating politics and religion. My bad.
PS: Going back into my hunting bubble.
I appreciated your reply. Although I do support the OP based upon his superior skills and methodology your reply was thoughtful and reasonableAt my age I should know better to get involved with these kinds of debates. It like debating politics and religion. My bad.
PS: Going back into my bubble.
One of the many things I've learned about long range shooting is a paper target, unlike an animal, cannot not move any appreciable distance from a kill shot to a wounding/ crippling shot in the 2-3+ seconds of bullet flight time, after the shot breaks..
There's been more of the judgmental criticism of someones opinion showing up on this forum recently. I had it happen to me recently. It's detrimental to those folks that are looking for information, or help, when someone who has that knowledge simply chooses not to offer it because some jacka$$ will attack them if the info differs from their opinion. That's what happened to the Predator Masters board. It died because some know it all abrasive twits, repelled the experienced guys and they left. It's OK to disagree, but it's not OK to tell someone that their opinion is wrong or has no value.
Perhaps I missed it, but what were you shooing?
DirtySteve
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In case someone has not mentioned it.. Nice shooting..
I would never shoot at game at that distance.. For me it is 500 yds or under.. Why practice.. I don't practice enough at longer ranges.. You obviously do.. I saw the BR target, awesome by the way.. I have a neighbor in which it is unethical for him to shoot at any thing over 100 yards.. And I am generous saying 100 yards..
I would never shoot at game at that distance.. For me it is 500 yds or under.. Why practice.. I don't practice enough at longer ranges.. You obviously do.. I saw the BR target, awesome by the way.. I have a neighbor in which it is unethical for him to shoot at any thing over 100 yards.. And I am generous saying 100 yards..
And I've seen a trophy bear silver/grey in color roughly 400 lbs clear 200 yards up hill in the time it took to work the bolt for a second shot.
Just saying luck and skill played a huge part in this harvest.
Nice shot and Nice kill.
You have the knowledge, equipment and the experience in what you do.
What is an ethical shot distance is like asking is the painting on the wall beautiful. Painting is beautiful in the eye of the beholder and shooting, is in the ability of the shooter.
You have the knowledge, equipment and the experience in what you do.
What is an ethical shot distance is like asking is the painting on the wall beautiful. Painting is beautiful in the eye of the beholder and shooting, is in the ability of the shooter.
There must be thousands of us who have shot long range...or at least past 1000 yds alot, and belonged to the Varmint Hunters club years ago, know that hitting a target as large as a bear at 1000 yds is not a big deal...today I'd be more impressed if the hit was at 3000 yds or more, with all that electronic gear, specialized equipment, and backup shooting support team.
But equally impressed with the lack of respect for big game animals...sniping big game, calling it hunting, always reflects negativly on the character (hunter?) just a shooter in my mind...not even good sniper skills. Just shooting and most everyone does that...regardless of range, sometimes we hit, sometimes we miss.
I've been asked to do it by fellow shooters/ hunters yrs ago..."it would be easy for you to kill that antelope, they just stand there and look at you at 850 yds", I was told. But I never took them up on the offer.
I spent many years shooting long range in the mountains...I know 1000 yd shooting and how fast the wind changes, out across canyons it's often blowing in the opposite direction it is at your location. The 1.2 to 1.4 seconds it takes the bullet to get there can easily cause wounding, a gust and you're easily 3 feet off. And tested soft Nosler BT and Match bullets failed to expand at 950 to 1000 yds, just the rifling on the bullets plastic tips completely intact. For some reason this has become fairly popular as an ego stroker, but you can do the same thing on steel or paper...and more folks will consider you "the man."
This has been outlawed in my state...no electronics devices to help you shoot big game, range finders, electronic scopes, calls, etc...a trail cam not attached to you or your rifle is the only legal electronic device for several years now...
They expect the hunter to actually grab his traditionally scoped rifle, or iron sighted lever gun and hit the brush or walk abandoned logging roads...Can't even load your gun next your vehicles and benches. They changed the shooting of big game back to hunting big game...less wounded animals. At first I was concerned, but now I'm glad they did...the game commission here has a dim view of such practices, they observed the aftermath of the long range big game shooting practices that swept across the country...and it's danger to other hunters as the ranges increase...3 seconds of bullet flight...or more..and another hunter, or snow machine, maybe skiing, appears into the field of view of your scope tracking the animal, or out enjoying the snow but you just pulled the trigger...been there... with an ATV racing down a dead end logging road toward my target...it's the longest 2.4 seconds of my life.
Lots of people these days and many don't stay in their designated recreational spots...happens quite often... ride up on off road vehicles and look at the target I'm shooting at ... hunting season can be rather crowded on public lands...even then people are in areas where they are not authorized to be in. Be carefull...you have hearing protection and they are many times on noisy machines, with helmets not paying attention, with a narrow field of view and concentrating on the scope reticle...a potential for disaster...especially on public lands.
But equally impressed with the lack of respect for big game animals...sniping big game, calling it hunting, always reflects negativly on the character (hunter?) just a shooter in my mind...not even good sniper skills. Just shooting and most everyone does that...regardless of range, sometimes we hit, sometimes we miss.
I've been asked to do it by fellow shooters/ hunters yrs ago..."it would be easy for you to kill that antelope, they just stand there and look at you at 850 yds", I was told. But I never took them up on the offer.
I spent many years shooting long range in the mountains...I know 1000 yd shooting and how fast the wind changes, out across canyons it's often blowing in the opposite direction it is at your location. The 1.2 to 1.4 seconds it takes the bullet to get there can easily cause wounding, a gust and you're easily 3 feet off. And tested soft Nosler BT and Match bullets failed to expand at 950 to 1000 yds, just the rifling on the bullets plastic tips completely intact. For some reason this has become fairly popular as an ego stroker, but you can do the same thing on steel or paper...and more folks will consider you "the man."
This has been outlawed in my state...no electronics devices to help you shoot big game, range finders, electronic scopes, calls, etc...a trail cam not attached to you or your rifle is the only legal electronic device for several years now...
They expect the hunter to actually grab his traditionally scoped rifle, or iron sighted lever gun and hit the brush or walk abandoned logging roads...Can't even load your gun next your vehicles and benches. They changed the shooting of big game back to hunting big game...less wounded animals. At first I was concerned, but now I'm glad they did...the game commission here has a dim view of such practices, they observed the aftermath of the long range big game shooting practices that swept across the country...and it's danger to other hunters as the ranges increase...3 seconds of bullet flight...or more..and another hunter, or snow machine, maybe skiing, appears into the field of view of your scope tracking the animal, or out enjoying the snow but you just pulled the trigger...been there... with an ATV racing down a dead end logging road toward my target...it's the longest 2.4 seconds of my life.
Lots of people these days and many don't stay in their designated recreational spots...happens quite often... ride up on off road vehicles and look at the target I'm shooting at ... hunting season can be rather crowded on public lands...even then people are in areas where they are not authorized to be in. Be carefull...you have hearing protection and they are many times on noisy machines, with helmets not paying attention, with a narrow field of view and concentrating on the scope reticle...a potential for disaster...especially on public lands.
No need to be deliberately obtuse.
Hunting takes three considerations :
1. does the bullet have energy to kill at that distance
2. can the shooter place a kill shot at that distance
3. can the animal be found for a follow up shot if it's wounded
If any one of those are overlooked, then it's target practice.
outasite`08
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Hey captain what part of Centre Co. were you hunting? Just curious, I lived there for 58 years and chased some bears. Jeff
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