I think that is absolutely the case - sometimes. Most of the successful calling stands I've had, produced within 5 or 10 minutes. But if I'm in a spot that I've got a good feel about, and the breeze remains in my favor, I'll stay for an hour; and been rewarded for it many times.My coyote body count is way higher just minding my own business instead of "calling".
One time I used a call for at least 30 minutes and got no response. Ten minutes later a coyote came charging in like his butt was on fire. Sometimes I think they hear your call (and all the other noises you make) well past what you believe to be their range of hearing.
Words of wisdom there. They dont give a D&#N about your plans... At least with this attempt, I think the most success is to get coyotes to stop and hang up, stand still and wait for a long shot, most guys try everything to prevent coyote hang ups and hanging up is what prevents some of the most shots for many hunters.I hope those coyotes appreciate the thought and effort you're putting into this project and have the good manners to show a little cooperation.
I've found the critters to be quirky and unpredictable, and frequently they don't seem to give a hoot about some of my most brilliant ideas when it comes to me killing them.jd
By seeing that the decoy is waving around when you activate it. This is on the same frequency and just another digital channel you activate like a particular sound.Words of wisdom there. They dont give a D&#N about your plans... At least with this attempt, I think the most success is to get coyotes to stop and hang up, stand still and wait for a long shot, most guys try everything to prevent coyote hang ups and hanging up is what prevents some of the most shots for many hunters.
The next problem I was curious about, if the call is that far away, how is the hunter going to hear if the call is playing or not???
Perfect, I havent used the FoxPro decoys, I didnt think of that.By seeing that the decoy is waving around when you activate it. This is on the same frequency and just another digital channel you activate like a particular sound.
Anyhow my motivation is to have something else to do when shooting at 600-1000 yds. I have that target speed function in my AE ballistics calculator that I have never used. lol
need to get them to stick their heads down a bait tube! a friend does this sucessfullyPerfect, I havent used the FoxPro decoys, I didnt think of that.
What do you guys think??? 15mph average on a coyote trotting in to the call, 11 or 12mph on a lazy trot???
I would love to see that... I havent heard of it. Does your buddy set the bait tube out at his hunting stand? What does he use as bait?need to get them to stick their heads down a bait tube! a friend does this sucessfully
I dont know but will have to ask him.I think they set the tubes in their spots way ahead and then go back to drop some meat inside and place the caller. my step dad was a professional coyote hunter - county trapper - for ranches. He never baited his traps. Most were set on saddles where the dogs would cross by a pee and scat marking spot, usually a prominent rock. He had his own caged coyote and would collect its urine and scat. Only fed it jack rabbits. He had little squirt bottle of pee which he would use on the rock and then add some scat. Traps were set where the resident male he was after would step on to pee over the intruder's pee and scat. He was very careful to not leave his scent and folded his canvas kneeling blanket inside out so the side that went on the dirt while setting traps was always the same side down. He only used bait for M44 cyanide traps, aka 'gitters'. Was a spring loaded gadget that fired a 38 shell with a plastic cap of cyanide powder for the bullet. It was buried in the ground so just the 2 in barrel stuck up. Around the barrel was something that looked like a sewing thread spool wrapped with cotton, smeared with a mayonnaise looking goop called 'gitter bait'. Coyote would grab the spool to pick it up and a cyanide 'bullet' would wind up in its throat. Not a very selective killer, unfortunately. He made the bait in a gallon jar with fine mesh mosquito screen under the lid which had knife slits poked in it. Inside was salmon bellys and heads, limberger cheese, musk glands from river otters and some other disgusting things. He would set the jars in the summer on a hillside by our house until all turned into a thick white goo. boy did it stink!I would love to see that... I havent heard of it. Does your buddy set the bait tube out at his hunting stand? What does he use as bait?
I would figure your scent would be all over the bait tube and the coyotes would want nothing to do with it. But obviously trappers bait successfully. I set out road kill in my woods and coyotes didnt come to it for 3 week when I know they are in the area often, and then one or two would show up once a week for a month and then they never came back. From what I have seen and heard, coyotes are darn smart and reluctant to be easily baited, but I havent done it much and Im sure different parts of the country the coyotes act differently.
Ive seen coyotes in the area react the most to other coyote carcasses in the area. When I go hunting and bring home coyotes from other areas the local coyotes around me can get way more careless. I wouldnt suggest bringing a dead coyote everywhere with you but trim some fur from the groin area and put it in a ziploc bag.
I trapped with a buddy for one season but it was not my cup of tea. Those trapping baits are nasty, theres nothing else like those.
Ive read some trapper bait recipes that looked and sounded like some cooks recipe from the pits of hell.
Good thing none of the kids in my high school knew what that stuff was at all.When we were teenagers, at the sat might grange hall rodeo dances, we used to have fun eliminating other dudes from horning in on the chicks we were chasing. We would have some gitter bait in a 35mm film canister and some q-tips. just took a dab of it on the ass of the guy you wanted to make disappear for the night! lol
My dad has trapped off and on all through his life. At one point he got a bit obsessed with collecting skunk scent for use as a lure. He would always talk about how easy it was to collect with a syringe and put into a jar without getting any on himself.I trapped with a buddy for one season but it was not my cup of tea. Those trapping baits are nasty, theres nothing else like those.
Ive read some trapper bait recipes that looked and sounded like some cooks recipe from the pits of hell.
Thats what I would do. Finding ranges here to shoot over 400 yards is near impossible. Public hunting land has a no target shooting rule. Ive made different fold up large targets over the years, I would carry my Fclass 30" rifle, my AR, call, seat and target, I would set out the target far out somewhere and walk 1000 yards to make a coyote stand. After the coyote stand, I would set the big gun down and take two or three shots at the far target.Why not just a card board coyote no sense wounding and educating them. You can even walk your shots in and take a picture of the one that hits it.
I have watched 4 coyotes harass a skunk while I was hunting in Virginia at night years ago. I thought, boy they are going kill that skunk because he didn’t stand a chance against all of them. Each one went around the skunk and let him spray each one of them on both of the sides of their body and then went on for about 50 yds prior to two of them being shot (by me). I then figured out that they were letting the skunk give them a cover scent for hunting that night. Deer would smell the skunk scent and not be alarmed because the skunk is harmless to the deer. These coyotes were not interested in killing/eating that skunk in the slightest. I then had a new found respect for the intelligence of a coyote. They can’t go to the local Bass Pro Shop and get scent cover up but the old skunk provides it for free on a regular basis. Genius!Thats what I would do. Finding ranges here to shoot over 400 yards is near impossible. Public hunting land has a no target shooting rule. Ive made different fold up large targets over the years, I would carry my Fclass 30" rifle, my AR, call, seat and target, I would set out the target far out somewhere and walk 1000 yards to make a coyote stand. After the coyote stand, I would set the big gun down and take two or three shots at the far target.
Other than Fclass firing off 60 rounds from the same spot at the same target, thats the only 500+yard shooting available.
I DONT UNDERSTAND, I thought skunks stank for a danged purpose, to scare everything off? Are coyotes regularly running up and eating skunks? I could never understand that.
I never thought of that!I have watched 4 coyotes harass a skunk while I was hunting in Virginia at night years ago. I thought, boy they are going kill that skunk because he didn’t stand a chance against all of them. Each one went around the skunk and let him spray each one of them on both of the sides of their body and then went on for about 50 yds prior to two of them being shot (by me). I then figured out that they were letting the skunk give them a cover scent for hunting that night. Deer would smell the skunk scent and not be alarmed because the skunk is harmless to the deer. These coyotes were not interested in killing/eating that skunk in the slightest. I then had a new found respect for the intelligence of a coyote. They can’t go to the local Bass Pro Shop and get scent cover up but the old skunk provides it for free on a regular basis. Genius!