1000 yard scope?

[timeout]

I have thought his over and in the spirit of this forum . . . .. . If I had a $2,000 scope on my $3,500 bench gun, I would agree with DK14. There are members here that are so far out of my league that it makes some conversation quite informative and maybe humorous. Trying to understand the difference mechanically between another $125 goofy add on like a 20 MOA rail or base and a shim between the base and the receiver. I don't see any. If a shim bows anything, so would a similar elevation MOA base. I looked at my Tikka hunting rifle, no base, the rings go directly on the shaped receiver. The rings are in line, and on the same planar surface. Just as a one-piece base. Any differing elevation between the rings will have to result in an angular conflict. The base or the rings or the scope has to bend, or deflect even if it is a tiny amount. Never considered that, but I doubt I would ever notice it on my 20 yo Tasco scope. So is this a real (rail ?) issue or just a distaste for cheap beer ??

I'll let someone else explain how a rail keeps the scope rings level with each other, as opposed to a shim under one of the individual rings. Just to clarify, I wasn't knocking cheap beer, I was expressing my dislike for "light" beer. There are inexpensive full body beers that taste good.

 

[Flouncer]

Shim under one end of the scope base or rail in lieu of the 20MOA wedge shape in the base. . . .. . .. . .

 

[Big Mc]

Need to buy a scope with enough clicks to get me out to 1000? Will be shooting a 195 grain bullet at around 2900fps, B.C. of 610. How many clicks of up will I need from middle of scope range ? .300 win mag

Sightron 10X50X60 20 MOA base and don't look back. Just my two cents Tommy Mc

 

[muleman69]

Sightron 10X50X60 20 MOA base and don't look back. Just my two cents Tommy Mc

I have one sightron already ,great scope

 

[Iowa Fox]

Not familiar with Ivey but will look them up. Thanks

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/short-barreled-28-nosler.3944152/page-2


Here is a pic of a new Ivey in this thread. Have not seen a post from Randy to see how it is working for him. For 1K yards I like Burris XTR Signature rings. They will take you all the way to 40 minutes of offset with inserts and the best part is no ring marks on the tube.

For longer range I have seen the guys use adjustable MOA, Gantry, Ivey, and Rackengle (spelling?) Some definitely work better than others.

 

[muleman69]

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/short-barreled-28-nosler.3944152/page-2


Here is a pic of a new Ivey in this thread. Have not seen a post from Randy to see how it is working for him. For 1K yards I like Burris XTR Signature rings. They will take you all the way to 40 minutes of offset with inserts and the best part is no ring marks on the tube.

For longer range I have seen the guys use adjustable MOA, Gantry, Ivey, and Rackengle (spelling?) Some definitely work better than others.

Sounds good,I will look them up. TKS

 

[retired]

burris tactical signature rings.
40 moa in 5 moa steps iirc
aprox 100 bucks

 

[Nomad47]

I will agree with Big Mc. But add Burris signature rings. All the adjustment you will ever need.

 

[JFrank]

I have one sightron already ,great scope

Good morning Muleman,
I own a Sightron 8x32 it's on my benchrest rifle. Great scope for shooting small groups at 600 yards however there are draw backs as you know.
1- not a lot of elevation available therefore your optical center suffers leading to 20 Moa rails.
2- 2 Moa reticles are hash marks so using them for hold over is big margin for error.
3- the exterior finish looks and feels like cheap primer that scratches easily.
4- the tracking on Mine is somewhat suspect even though it was sent back and confirmed good.
5- bulk
6- $
In comparison my field rifle wears an SWFA 3x15 SFP, the positives are for hunting or tactical
1- 140 Minutes of elevation and wind age
2- 1 MOA hash marks clearly defined with 10-20-30 minute read outs for easy holdovers
3- exterior finish is more like powder coat ' very tough, never scratches, scope is almost indestructible
4- tracking is spot on 100 percent
5- not bulky or top heavy
6- totally water proof even salt water '
7- $ half the price
Both are great scopes just different purposes.
Just my 2 cents bro'
SPJ

 

[JFrank]

I have one sightron already ,great scope

Multman
Just to brag on SWFA again, I once ranged a target at over 1640 yards I couldn't hold the rifle steady enough at the time to get exact. Pretty cool nonetheless.
SPJ

 

[JFrank]

Multman
Just to brag on SWFA again, I once ranged a target at over 1640 yards I couldn't hold the rifle steady enough at the time to get exact. Pretty cool nonetheless.
SPJ

Muleman ,sorry for miss spelling your handle.

 

[muleman69]

Muleman ,sorry for miss spelling your handle.

Thanks for the great info,I will check the SWFA out(sounds good) 1640 yds is a fer piece (have to take a saddle mule with me to put up target)....lol

 

[JFrank]

Thanks for the great info,I will check the SWFA out(sounds good) 1640 yds is a fer piece (have to take a saddle mule with me to put up target)....lol

Way far, my bro and I were amazed. I got mine off the SWFA sample list $399.00 if you don't hit your target with swfa it's not the scope!
SPJ

 

[muleman69]

Way far, my bro and I were amazed. I got mine off the SWFA sample list $399.00 if you don't hit your target with swfa it's not the scope!
SPJ

If I miss it most generally is the load or rifle(couldn't possibly be me)....lol

 

[BW64]

Use my SWFA 20x out to 1880. Sits on 20 MOA rail with Burris Signature rings. I can dial all the way for my 6.5 cm & spot on tracking.

BW

 

[Bc'z]

I stated i earlier post you should be able to shoot off the windshield to a 1000 yards, before touching turrets .
Zero cross hairs for 300, use upper marks for close range work.
My 3x15 has the DM retical, basically center diamond is a quick reference out to 400 yards

 

[Gtscotty]

I'll cast another vote for the SWFA. I have one of these on my 6.5 Creedmoor and spin it up to 1k regularly:

https://swfa.com/swfa-ss-3-15x42-tactical-rifle-scope-3.html

I got mine off the sample list for $600-ish a few years ago, and for a sub-$1k scope it checks all the major boxes: FFP, very repeatable, nice useable mil-quad reticle, and good enough glass.

The only downsides for me are that it is 5 mil per turn, doesn't have a zero stop and doesn't sport a nifty Christmas tree reticle. To get all of those in a package that is as reliable I'd have to pony up another couple grand and get up into NF territory. The SWFAs are certainly an excellent value.

 

[Bc'z]

You can use plastic washers to dummy up zero stop on the Swfa.

 

[mike a]

You can use plastic washers to dummy up zero stop on the Swfa.

I've been thinking of doing the washer thing on my Sightron but, ( thinking out loud kind of ) as you turn the turret cap down onto the washer would this not create a kind of "puller effect". Certainly your not going to crank on it. Just thinking. Maybe better safe than sorry. Thanx Mike

 

[Bc'z]

I've been thinking of doing the washer thing on my Sightron but, ( thinking out loud kind of ) as you turn the turret cap down onto the washer would this not create a kind of "puller effect". Certainly your not going to crank on it. Just thinking. Maybe better safe than sorry. Thanx Mike

Once you get washer's in push down on turrets set to "0" and tighten set screws. After shooting with turrets when you turn back to zero you may wind up going a couple clicks past zero before turret stops. It's not a perfect zero stop, but it does work in helping you kerp your sight in reference.