1000 yard coyote chambering?

[stacy]

WELL CHUCKBUSTER243 IS WRITE I HAVE TWO 243ACKELY'S ONE IS 8/TWT AND ONE IS 14/TWT I SHOOT 105VLD'S HUNTING IN THE 8/TWT AND 70GR SEIRRA MK IN THE 14/TWT WITH OUTSTANDING RESULTS AND ALSO A 6.5X47 LAPUA I SHOOT 130GR VLD HUNTING WITH VERY GOOD RESULTS IF YOU USE A STANDARD NECK YOU SHOOT FACTORY AMMO FROM LAPUA

 

[Hoier]

Ray

I'm talking factory ammo not brass.

 

[Rtheurer]

Alton

Have you had a chance to play with JBL balistics program to see how all these recomendations stack up? Your going to need some real world Velocities. Plug it in and maybe see what tickels you fancy.

My Coyote Rifle is a 243AI Krieger barrel #4. Shoots 95gr Berger VLD's at 3400 to 3500fps if memory serves me correctly. Plug that bullet and speed into the program and see what you get. Not the end all of combos...but is a great performer. Super Flat and real good in the wind. Havnt had a Coyote get away since I switched to the AI from 223/55gr Balistic tips.

Quite a Daunting task your about to embark onto. Best of luck.

RT

 

[johnmyers]

6 Remington with 117gr DTACs at 3100 fps with .600 bc

 

[alton9]

RT,
Yes, I've been playing around with a ballistic program & your 95gr VLD @ 3400 is pretty doggone impressive! If I could push the 140 gr 6.5 VLD (BC of .618) to the same speed.....WOW!!!!!( I changed the BC & neglected to change the velocity in the program ). The thing I'm noticing with the heavier bullets is more retained energy & the higher BC's make a noticeable difference in wind deflection. What I'm wondering now is, does 300 or so more ft/lbs @ 1000 yards help somehow with the rifle's accuracy at distance?

Chuckbuster ,
Why do you feel the .260 would be the choice over a .243 or .243AI if I have much wind?

Johnmyers,
Would a fellow need a long action to shoot the heavies in 6 mm Rem (repeater)?

Thanks to all, but I'm still undecided.... Keep the advice coming.
Alton9

 

[johnmyers]

Alton
A long action would be best. Mine is a Panda single shot and you have to slide the bolt back a little to remove a loaded round but it shoots so well I can overlook it

 

[LRPV]

I think Matt is on to something with the 243. It would be nice to know factory ammo is around if this reloading shortage keeps going.
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6SLR is easily made with .243 brass

243 improved 30 degree would allow you to shoot factory 243 ammo where the SLR will not. I think the 6mm competition match will let you shoot factory ammo as well if the need arises but I'm not positive. Of course the 243AI would allow factory ammo IF it was needed.

I use a 22-250AI with 75 amax running 3450fps but I haven't shot it out to 1000.

 

[chuckbuster243]

The reason I say I like the 260 better is just pure bc. The 123's or 130 grain bullets launched at around 2800 + or so will buck wind better. I think with a 243ai speed I think it still will have the edge. My 95vld 243 load is 3050 out of a 26 inch barrel. I am not pushing it hard at all. The other reason I recommend the calibers is they fit in the short action you have and bolt face. Its just hard to beat a good 243 for easy components and accuracy.

 

[Raythemanroe]

I shoot my .243 more then any gun I own, I target shoot, hunt deer, varmint and with 115g Bergers it bucks the wind pretty good..

 

[WyleWD]

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WOW!! I bet that make a heck of a thump when it connects on a hog! Whew. The 120's out of my 6.5-06 thump them pretty hard, I can only imagine the 95vmax. WD

WyleWD, tell me more about your 6.5-06?
Alton9
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Alton9. Mine is strictly a hunting rifle, Mauser action, 26" Stainless Lilja barrel, custom trigger, 4-16x Sightron scope. I've shot enough 3 inch groups at 400yds with it to say that it is accurate with several different bullets. Back in 2003 it won the Prairie Dog splat competition we had in camp with a 95gr Vmax, It handles the 140 Gameking VERY well. And has shot the nosler 100's and 120's into some exceptional situations a few times. I've found N560 to be very useful in this rifle especially with the 140gr bullets. I just neck up 25-06 brass, load and shoot.

If you have a Ballistic program compare trajectories and retained energy on a 30 cal 180gr or 200gr bullet at speeds they can produce, and then a 6.5 140gr gameking at 3050 or 3100fps all the way out to 600yds or so. WD

 

[sscoyote]

I hear George Gardner's shooting the 6.5 RSAUM for longer ranges. Also Chuck McIntosh's group of Mac's Gunworks up in Gillette, WY have been building a lot of rigs off the RSAUM case as well for long range hunting and field shooting. Always thought that case would be about right for the 140 6.5's or 7mm 162 Hornady maybe.

 

[Fieldstone]

Just built a 6XC that pushes a Berger 105 VLD at around 3100fps. It is a great coyote gun. There are some good videos on YouTube of people shooting this caliber at some pretty incredible distances. Check out gunwerks 6xc.

 

[boltgunluvr]

How about a 243 Win? Plenty of brass, bullets, dies, tons of data, etc. My 243s have really grown on me, especially with distance shooting.

 

[Raythemanroe]

"
How about a 243 Win? Plenty of brass, bullets, dies, tons of data, etc. My 243s have really grown on me, especially with distance shooting."


It's not new.

 

[xswanted]

I've been shooting the 80gr SMK's out to 800 with great accuracy results.

Using them in a 22BR (3000fps) and in a 22-250AI (3375fps)

Both hold great vertical and they shoot very well at long range. Longest coyote to date with either gun is one a tick over 430 with the Ackley. Bullet killed the coyote bang flop dead. Left a golf ball sized exit hole that was stitched fairly easily.

I'm hoping the BR won't tear up the fur quite as bad at longer ranges as the Ackley does.

I don't typically shoot coyotes much past 200 but have these guns both setup for those "just in case" times.

I think the big 22's are great choices.

My next choice would either be a 6XC or 6SLR with 95s or 105s. The big guns are great for long range, but I think the 6mms would be as big as I'd go for yotes.

 

[alton9]

Thanks guys, I appreciate all your thoughts. I keep looking at ballistic scenarios on a ballistic program and about all I can do is increase energy and recoil. The attainable velocities with the higher BC bullets in the various calibers all yield remarkably similar drift and drop figures. It's just too bad we can't push a .620 BC bullet at 4000fps. ;D. I'm thinking of wringing out the .22-6mm & maybe building a 6.5-06 just because... And for all the .243 supporters, I've got one of those to try at 1000yds too.
Thanks again to all,
Alton9

 

[jbhotrod]

Thanks guys, I appreciate all your thoughts. I keep looking at ballistic scenarios on a ballistic program and about all I can do is increase energy and recoil. The attainable velocities with the higher BC bullets in the various calibers all yield remarkably similar drift and drop figures. It's just too bad we can't push a .620 BC bullet at 4000fps. ;D. I'm thinking of wringing out the .22-6mm & maybe building a 6.5-06 just because... And for all the .243 supporters, I've got one of those to try at 1000yds too.
Thanks again to all,
Alton9

.620 G1 at 4000 fps? I think I might know of something that could come fairly close. 7mm Allen Magnum: http://www.apsrifles.com/Allen_Magnum_Wildcats.html

Load it up with 162 AMAX and I dont see why you couldnt push it to 3600-3750 depending on barrel length, powder used, and required brass life. Mr. Kirbys .338 Allen Mag can do 3400fps with the 300gr SMK pretty easily and could go up to 3500 with a long barrel and iffy brass life. I dont think I would be using something like that just to hunt yotes though.

 

[langenc]

Fellows, what are your thoughts on the optimum chambering for shooting a coyote at 1000 yards or so? I've been shooting a fast twist 22-250 with 75 gr. amax's with good results out to 600+ yards, and fair results at 800. At 880 & 900 yds I really seem to be struggling. I see a LOT of vertical dispersion (20+ inches), I think I may be running out of steam? I've got a 22-6mm barrel set up for 80gr. Amax's, haven't tried it past 600 yet, but I'm wondering if a .22 is the best choice for this kind of distance? Maybe I should try a .260 Rem. or a 6.5-06 for the improvement in B/C? I'd rather avoid a belted magnum if possible, but maybe I should consider a.300 or 7mm magnum?
Anyway, thanks in advance, let the advice begin....
Alton9

155 howitzer as minimum at 1000 yards. How the hxxl do you even see em at that range, oh maybe desret!

 

[Romulus]

straight 284. Easy to prep 6.5x284 brass and enough power and the legs to give a coyote a dose to 3/4 mile.

To me a .284 Win is mild.