1/4 or 1/8 moa

[GeootJan]

At some point in the next six months I intend to buy a new scope.

I would like one with fine adjustments, maybe 1/8 clicks per moa but I see a lot of decent ones at x14 are still 1/4 click per moa so maybe I’m complicating needlessly?

has anyone else wrestled with this question?
Just wondering


This will be an all purpose scope/rifle, varmint, target, hunting at 600m and I’d like to have fun making little groups

 

[agr516]

I would go 1/4 for that purpose. I hunt a lot with a 1/8 MOA scope and it aggravates me. I wish it was 1/4

 

[GeootJan]

You don’t find the extra precision useful? I guess at whitetail ranges it would be burdensome

 

[Bc'z]

Have you thought about a mil dial over moa?

 

[XTR]

1/8 for F class shooting, 1/4MOA or .1mils for the rest of my scopes.

 

[agr516]

You don’t find the extra precision useful? I guess at whitetail ranges it would be burdensome

No, I don't find the 1/8 useful on deer. Also, you said that you planned to hunt to 600M. Unless I was shooting field mice at that range, I cant think of a time when I would want 1/8 over 1/4.

 

[rammac]

1/8 MOA clicks are a literally a waste of time for a hunter, for a competition target shooter they would be beneficial. When I'm hunting I prefer 1/10 Mil clicks, they are faster to dial in with reasonable accuracy.

 

[P1ZombieKiller]

I have to admit, the last few hunting scopes I have bought, I have purposely sought out 1/2 MOA clicks. I will admit, they are not PD hunting scopes, but whitetail/pigs scopes. I don't care if I shoot 1" groups at 100 yards that tend to be 1/3" left of POA. They don't need to be any more fine tuned than that. And this usually gives me much more elevation adjustment in a single rotation of the turret (example.... 30 moa instead of 15 moa per revolution).

 

[GeootJan]

Have you thought about a mil dial over moa?

I will have to look into those. I grew up on open sights and only have one scope right now, a leopuld.

what are the benefits?

 

[Bc'z]

I will have to look into those. I grew up on open sights and only have one scope right now, a leopuld.

what are the benefits?

Less rotational movement for come ups.
.1 mil roughly equates to .36"
Examples
Wife's 260 is 1/4 moa= 4.5" come up @ 300 yards.
My 6.5cm is mils= 1.1 come up @ 300 yards.
2.9 @ 550 yards.

 

[GeootJan]

No, I don't find the 1/8 useful on deer. Also, you said that you planned to hunt to 600M. Unless I was shooting field mice at that range, I cant think of a time when I would want 1/8 over 1/4.

The field mice will never see me coming

 

[284winner]

Based on your needs, it seems like the .125 would be the best option. For varmints (prairie dogs, etc or just finer adjustment in your scope) the 1/8 minute adjustment may be better for your needs. Keeps your rifle impact adjustment finer for smaller targets. I have a .223 with a Nikon 1/8" MOA and it works great on smaller targets. Mostly at longer ranges. At 400 yards every click is 1/2" not 1". Won't make a difference on deer but on a prairie dog, it will.

 

[mongo chicago]

Been prairie doggin for over a decade. Go with the 1/8. If you buy a 1/4 and realize the 1/8 better suits your needs, you have to either do without or spend money on another scope. BUT, if you buy a 1/8 and you only needed a 1/4, no big deal. You just add a few more clicks on the knob. Also, I don't see any REAL advantage to mills over m.o.a. One is U.S. and one is metric. Basically they both do the same thing.

 

[284winner]

Been prairie doggin for over a decade. Go with the 1/8. If you buy a 1/4 and realize the 1/8 better suits your needs, you have to either do without or spend money on another scope. BUT, if you buy a 1/8 and you only needed a 1/4, no big deal. You just add a few more clicks on the knob. Also, I don't see any REAL advantage to mills over m.o.a. One is U.S. and one is metric. Basically they both do the same thing.

My mistake often times when I use my .125 minute scopes is that I forget that it's not a .250 scope and only turn it one click rather than two. I shot a local match with my 223 with the 1/8 scope and only corrected half what I needed for my 500 to 600 yard target. Caused me to lose a few points on the second target. Now I have a 1/8" sticker on my elevation turret facing me when I shoot. Hasn't happened since.

 

[Webster]

At some point in the next six months I intend to buy a new scope.

I would like one with fine adjustments, maybe 1/8 clicks per moa but I see a lot of decent ones at x14 are still 1/4 click per moa so maybe I’m complicating needlessly?

has anyone else wrestled with this question?
Just wondering


This will be an all purpose scope/rifle, varmint, target, hunting at 600m and I’d like to have fun making little groups

1/4 MOA 1" at 400 yards. At 600 yrds do you shoot for group size or ring count?

 

[AJC]

What type of competition your in matters. If your in a tactical shoot where your adjustment is made on time then you may want 1/4. If your in a dial and shoot sighters until ready then for score 1/8 may be better. Do you plan on using a graduated calibrated reticle for holdover or just a duplex reticle. The entire scope system can be worked to suit your needs in several ways.

 

[MrMajestic]

I prefer 1/4 over 1/8 for anything other than score/target shooting., JMHO

 

[GeootJan]

I’m only in competition with myself and the memory of how my father used to shoot.

thank you all for the food for thought

 

[K22]

Maybe a more important consideration if you're planning on dialing up for elevation is buying a scope that has repeatable turrets adjustments. You may want to ask some of these guys long range shooters what they use.

 

[GeootJan]

True, I dial my leopuld regularly, their tech support told me the scope will actually get better the more you work it.
I have been looking at meopta though, a nice cz scope to go on a nice cz rifle