That sweet 17 Mach IV

[Bixahsheesah]

Best 3 shot group ever. Cooper 21 17 Mach IV using RP 17 Fireball brass, Remington BR primers, 18.4 grs. Vit n-133. And, of course Berger 25 gr. Hp. Sure wish they weren't so pricey!
( but don't use my load without working it up for your gun)

 

[TheCZKid]

That's very interesting! I've been trying to find a great load for my 17M4, and just loaded up a ladder with N133 in the test range of 18.3 to 18.6, with 25 Berger HP bullets and Rem 7.5 primers.

Waiting on the weather / wind to cooperate to go shoot them. Your group gives me hope! My barrel seems to only get to .5" groups with 25 Vmax, but I have had good results with 8208 and 25 Berger in previous tests.
So, I'm going to use the Bergers on this new test ladder. And yes, I wish they were not so pricy!

 

[Bixahsheesah]

Good luck with the load! I'm guessing it will shoot very well. I can't get the Vmaxes to work at all, and finally saw evidence of tumbling with the 25 grainer. So went back to the Bergers..

 

[rickiesrevenge]

If you've got a 10t it can be a gamble on stability with the 25vmax. 9t and they're good.

 

[TheCZKid]

I had a Vmax tumble the last time I shot them, I couldn't figure that out! I appreciate your saying that, as it was pretty weird.

 

[hogpatrol]

Best 3 shot group ever. Cooper 21 17 Mach IV using RP 17 Fireball brass, Remington BR primers, 18.4 grs. Vit n-133. And, of course Berger 25 gr. Hp. Sure wish they weren't so pricey!
( but don't use my load without working it up for your gun)

Can't complain about that! My fireballs top out at 17.xx of VV133. 18 plus grains would be a blown primer and one and done on the brass.

 

[ohlongarmisle]

Best 3 shot group ever. Cooper 21 17 Mach IV using RP 17 Fireball brass, Remington BR primers, 18.4 grs. Vit n-133. And, of course Berger 25 gr. Hp. Sure wish they weren't so pricey!
( but don't use my load without working it up for your gun)

Can't complain about that! My fireballs top out at 17.xx of VV133. 18 plus grains would be a blown primer and one and done on the brass.

Can't get any better than that , some patented shooting there.

 

[Bixahsheesah]

Thank you sir. Working up a load can be frustrating until you find the right combination. This will be my primary prairie dog load

 

[ohlongarmisle]

Thank you sir. Working up a load can be frustrating until you find the right combination. This will be my primary prairie dog load

Too complicated for me ,I only use factory ammo.

 

[danny]

Too complicated for me ,I only use factory ammo.

Ouch...severe limitations and $$$$.

Danny

 

[ohlongarmisle]

Ouch...severe limitations and $$$$.

Danny

Too busy to re-load spare time in fair weather is better spent driving this as summer is fleeting in Ohio.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

Too busy to re-load spare time in fair weather is better spent driving this as summer is fleeting in Ohio.

Being another "P-Car" enthusiast, I'd opine that's why we do our reloading in the winter when the snow's flying. None of my rifles have ever seen a factory round shot through them.

Summer is fleeting here on the high desert also. "Spirited Driving" in the summer, reloading in the winter. Simple really.

 

[danny]

Too busy to re-load spare time in fair weather is better spent driving this as summer is fleeting in Ohio.

I like that it is not a "Muscle Car".

Danny

 

[ohlongarmisle]

Being another "P-Car" enthusiast, I'd opine that's why we do our reloading in the winter when the snow's flying. None of my rifles have ever seen a factory round shot through them.

Summer is fleeting here on the high desert also. "Spirited Driving" in the summer, reloading in the winter. Simple really.

I never took an interest in reloading, I've always had decent enough success with good factory ammo, I only shoot fur so it works, guys that reload can really work up some fantastic combinations, from what I've seen.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

I never took an interest in reloading

To each his own, but IMO you're missing a segment of the pastime that adds enjoyment to what we do, is a great way to spend rainy/snowy winter days in the man cave, and gives the shooter loads tailored to their rifle or handgun that factory ammo is not capable of achieving.

To me, nailing a distant ground squirrel at 350 yards standing on his mound, or a rockchuck peeking over a rock with only his eyes, nose and ears showing at 400 yards with a small caliber rifle using a handload you developed makes me grin and gives a degree of satisfaction factory ammo cannot provide.

Something for everyone, right?

 

[ohlongarmisle]

I like that it is not a "Muscle Car".

Danny

To each his own, but IMO you're missing a segment of the pastime that adds enjoyment to what we do, is a great way to spend rainy/snowy winter days in the man cave, and gives the shooter loads tailored to their rifle or handgun that factory ammo is not capable of achieving.

To me, nailing a distant ground squirrel at 350 yards standing on his mound, or a rockchuck peeking over a rock with only his eyes, nose and ears showing at 400 yards with a small caliber rifle using a handload you developed makes me grin and gives a degree of satisfaction factory ammo cannot provide.

Something for everyone, right?

How's the rockchuck hunting in Oregon?Trying to find a place is a project,I'm willing to pay a guide to just drop me off somewhere and I do my thing,public land is not an option.I'm looking at Idaho also.

 

[danny]

To each his own, but IMO you're missing a segment of the pastime that adds enjoyment to what we do, is a great way to spend rainy/snowy winter days in the man cave, and gives the shooter loads tailored to their rifle or handgun that factory ammo is not capable of achieving.

To me, nailing a distant ground squirrel at 350 yards standing on his mound, or a rockchuck peeking over a rock with only his eyes, nose and ears showing at 400 yards with a small caliber rifle using a handload you developed makes me grin and gives a degree of satisfaction factory ammo cannot provide.

Something for everyone, right?

Other than rimfire ammunition, it has happened maybe two or three times that I have fired factory ammunition, but that's it. I have been shooting since the mid 70s, too.

Danny