Grimey -I have about 20-25 lbs each of 1970’s & 1980’s N201, 8208 and Scotland H322 that is still good. My question is can any of them compete with 133 in a 6PPC? Thanks for any information from you guys.
Yes this is the pull down sometimes referred to as Thunderbird 8208 or T32.Is it pull down 8208?
The 8208 I have is the old military surplus that sometimes was called Thunderbird 8208 and T32. I know VV133 is the powder of choice but just wanted to try to use up some of the old powder.Grimey -
Howdy !
From what I’ve read….. IMR8208 was introduced in 2010.
VV133 is hard to beat, let alone equal; in the 6PPC. Other powders have been used with notable success yes; but my sense of it is…. VV133 is the most popular powder for short range benchrest w/ the 6PPC.
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357Mag
Thanks for the reply.Try it and see. Cant speak for a ppc, but i had an old lb of H322 that sat for years because I couldnt find anything it liked till i tried it in a 223R with 52 gn bullets. It just stacked them 1 on top of the other. So, you never know till you try something.
Back in the day, the old Scottish H322 in the cardboard canister was a go-to powder for a 6PPC. Fine grained, very consistent, and accurate. I used about 28.5 grains behind a 66-68 custom match bullet and just shot dots with it. Downside? It was really dirty burning and required frequent cleaning.I have about 20-25 lbs each of 1970’s & 1980’s N201, 8208 and Scotland H322 that is still good. My question is can any of them compete with 133 in a 6PPC? Thanks for any information from you guys.
You’re exactly right and yes the equipment list tells it all. VV133 is the powder of choice. Just my opinion that some of the old powders like I have seem to stay in tune a little better.Back in the day, the old Scottish H322 in the cardboard canister was a go-to powder for a 6PPC. Fine grained, very consistent, and accurate. I used about 28.5 grains behind a 66-68 custom match bullet and just shot dots with it. Downside? It was really dirty burning and required frequent cleaning.
The other two (8208 and Norma 201) both work with a PPC, but it's hard to beat N133. A look at the equipment list at an NBRSA Group Shooting Match, says it all.
SJ
Good information and thanks for the input.It all depends on what matches you're shooting. At local or club matches, the ability to stay in tune easier can be more important than having the Nth accuracy capability only experienced shooters can use to their advantage. Even at Regional matches it may work well for you. Where some of those powders may be behind is in their ability to tune at the higher velocities needed to be competitive without running into serious pressure problems.
I’ve been able to get all three to group close to VV133. Sometimes on a more regular basis without shooting them real warm. Still 133 is probably the best in the long run.H322 shoots great out of mine

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