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Winchester 1895

mike mccormick

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I have always been curious about these rifles. Considering one of the newer production Miroku guns. What kind of accuracy is to be expected? Any known problems?
 
I've got one of the High Grade models in 405 Winchester. Shoots as good as you can see. I made a red dot mount and put a Burris fastfire III on it, much better than irons. Good trigger for a lever action.
Thank you. Good to hear from someone who actually shoots one. How is the recoil on the 405?
 
Mine's a standard grade in 405. 300gr at about 2350, and recoil is not too bad. My only wish is that they would offer them with a pistol grip and shotgun butt. A friend had that done by a gunsmith who has since (sadly) passed away. It cost him nearly a grand.
 
If you want to know about lever gun accuracy look up the writings of Paco Kelly.

There are also a few who compete in BPCR with lever guns.
 
If you want to know about lever gun accuracy look up the writings of Paco Kelly.

There are also a few who compete in BPCR with lever guns.
I was asking more about the 1895 specifically. You can't lump all lever guns together and call it good. Some are good, some are terrible
 
Contact “Koger” on our Forum. He hunts with his 1895 in .30-06.

 
I had a Win. 1885 (Miroku) in 223. It shot pretty well, not as good as my Rem 700. I didn't want to get in to different hand loads for each gun so I sold it. I now have another Win. 1885, in 17HMR, w/ fixed 12x Leupold. It shoots very well at 100yds. Of course being a rim fire, ammo makes a difference. It is more than adequate for sage rats at reasonable distance. Miroku makes a nice rifle, I think you could expect very good 'hunting accuracy', I don't know if 'bench rest accuracy' is possible. I also think it would provide you enjoyment and 'bragging rights', it is a nice production rifle.
 
I had a Win. 1885 (Miroku) in 223. It shot pretty well, not as good as my Rem 700. I didn't want to get in to different hand loads for each gun so I sold it. I now have another Win. 1885, in 17HMR, w/ fixed 12x Leupold. It shoots very well at 100yds. Of course being a rim fire, ammo makes a difference. It is more than adequate for sage rats at reasonable distance. Miroku makes a nice rifle, I think you could expect very good 'hunting accuracy', I don't know if 'bench rest accuracy' is possible. I also think it would provide you enjoyment and 'bragging rights', it is a nice production rifle.
No expectations of target accuracy. One inch at 100yds would be great. Just wondering if that is within the norm for the newer 1895
 
I have not done any work with one of the Mirokus but have re-barreled, restored, and shot a number of original 1895's. When I was in my thirties, it was not too uncommon to be able to shoot a good one into 2 moa or less. 45 years later, I'm mostly just pretending to see the sights and don't shoot as well. Nonetheless, the last barrel job (in 30/40) put five into just under 2 inches. This one had the tangent peep sight.
In 30/06, they stretch cases a bit if loaded to factory levels. This applies to the Miroku as well. Load 150's to around 2700 fps and brass life will be much better.
The neat thing about the 1895, just like with the other Winchester levers, they are complex and intricate, yet they are reliable and rugged. On top of that, they are well balanced and hold well. WH
 
I have not done any work with one of the Mirokus but have re-barreled, restored, and shot a number of original 1895's. When I was in my thirties, it was not too uncommon to be able to shoot a good one into 2 moa or less. 45 years later, I'm mostly just pretending to see the sights and don't shoot as well. Nonetheless, the last barrel job (in 30/40) put five into just under 2 inches. This one had the tangent peep sight.
In 30/06, they stretch cases a bit if loaded to factory levels. This applies to the Miroku as well. Load 150's to around 2700 fps and brass life will be much better.
The neat thing about the 1895, just like with the other Winchester levers, they are complex and intricate, yet they are reliable and rugged. On top of that, they are well balanced and hold well. WH
Thank you Will
 
No expectations of target accuracy. One inch at 100yds would be great. Just wondering if that is within the norm for the newer 1895
The Win. 1885 223 shot that well, but the Rem 700 was shooting better. I looked for a 17HMR target, no luck, but I think it shoots about an inch with the proper ammo. I've had 17HMR rifles by Cooper and CZ and that's about how they shot also. Ammo is the key with rim fires. I had a beautiful New York Kimber that shot the CCI cheap stuff better than the expensive target ammo. Check the Guns International sight, usually some on there.
 
The Win. 1885 223 shot that well, but the Rem 700 was shooting better. I looked for a 17HMR target, no luck, but I think it shoots about an inch with the proper ammo. I've had 17HMR rifles by Cooper and CZ and that's about how they shot also. Ammo is the key with rim fires. I had a beautiful New York Kimber that shot the CCI cheap stuff better than the expensive target ammo. Check the Guns International sight, usually some on there.
Looking at the 1895 lever, not the 1885 hi/low wall
 

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