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Watching The Pacific for the 10th time. Excellent. The more I watch it, the more I like it.
Interesting take. No thanks.PS, in all my venting, I think it is time for universal draft in US. Two-four years of some kind of service, maybe starting as young as 16!!
Might cure their fidgeting problemPS, in all my venting, I think it is time for universal draft in US. Two-four years of some kind of service, maybe starting as young as 16!!
Age 18 for males with a 2 year commitment. Simply because America's youth needs the discipline they don'tPS, in all my venting, I think it is time for universal draft in US. Two-four years of some kind of service, maybe starting as young as 16!!
Watching The Pacific for the 10th time. Excellent. The more I watch it, the more I like it.
Common in a number of countries and probably "saves" a number of lost youth, but only if every politician is required to serve prior to taking office (and not as a jag officer).PS, in all my venting, I think it is time for universal draft in US. Two-four years of some kind of service, maybe starting as young as 16!!
Sw282 -Age 18 for males with a 2 year commitment. Simply because America's youth needs the discipline they don't
get at home or school. An need this country will never address.
Yep, that's how it used to be, whether still the same today I can't say. There has been a LOT of change since my retirement 30years ago. Same process applied to any specialty - admin to cops to cooks to CE to aircraft maint to electronics (my career field), etc.Sw282 -
Howdy !
IMHO -
Enlistments need to be longer than 2yr, if for no other reason than mechanical /
technical MIL carreer fields can require multiple tech schools; spaced over multiple years…in-addition to self-paced,self-study “ carreer development courses “.
In the Air National Guard experience that I had ( as an example ), aircraft mechanics entered tech school for their “ Air Force Speciality Code “ ( AFSC ) immediately after graduation from basic. Thereafter, they graduated from tech school with a “3 skill level“…. basically “ apprentice “ level. As they advanced through their enlistment, part of being promotable…besides “ time in grade/time in service “…was mechanics also completed extra skills training through self study “carreer development courses”
( CDCs ). After completion of the required CDC, the mechanic was awarded a 5 skill level.
At the end of an initial 6yr enlistment, it was not uncommon within most aircraft systems repair specialities for the mechanic to be an E-5 with a 5 skill level, or “ Journeyman “
The Air Force, ANG, and Air Force reserve get a lot of stuff done, via the contributions of their assigned 3 and 5 skill level enlisted personnel.
But, higher skill levels and higher levels of supervision are also required, and that leads to things like “ 7 level “ E-6s and above. But, ya gotta be first an 3 level, and then progress to being a 5 level…. before you can become trained to the 7 skill level or
“ Craftsman “. The services have to “ grow their own “. “ On-the-job-training “ ( OJT ) is the axle that the trainig wheel rotates on, and 7 levels train 5 skill levels and 3 skill levels; with the help of 5 levels passing on what they know by helping train 3 levels.
In the “ Air Guard “, “ weekenders “ could/ would many times stay in for 20yr, and could see themselves reach E-6 and above pay grades, and 7 skill level.
My point:
The Air Guard ( and other services ) can’t operate with forces predominantly occupied by troops w/ just 2yr commitments. There has to be a reasonably sized pool of highly trained/highly skilled “ journeymen “ and “ craftsmen “ on-strength; also.
With regards,
357Mag
Be careful what you wish for. I was drafted in 1970 after graduating from college delaying the pursuit of my career. It was not my choice, but my number was drawn in the first draft lottery. However, I served.PS, in all my venting, I think it is time for universal draft in US. Two-four years of some kind of service, maybe starting as young as 16!!
Can you clarify "lets weed out the weak "Might cure their fidgeting problem
(need for a stupid fidget spinner)
I'm for it
let's weed out the weak
I do. 30% of draftees were KIA in VietNam. The remainder enlisted of a total of on the the wall of 58000+.I do not know how many draftees are on "The Wall" but I am sure there are some