22 BR good bad ??

[Cbrown3020]

Any one shooting a 14 twist 22 BR ??
Positives negatives what kind of velocities with 50gr bullets? How does it compare to a 22-250AI for performance besides the powder charge.

 

[boltfluter]

Great round! Shot circles around any .22-250AI I have owned, accuracy wise. Will not keep up speed wise to the AI. Otherwise by far the best .22 CF I have ever had the pleasure of shooting. 8 twist is even better Imo.
Paul

 

[Evan]

There’s no reason to do a 14 twist. A 12 leaves nothing on the table and allows you to shoot a broad range of bullets better, including the 52/53gn boat tails that can be sometimes marginal in a 14 and are way better performers than any of the 50s. I am partial to a 7.7 twist with the 90gn bullets but that’s a different beast and I use it for 1000yd BR.

22BR runs circles around the 22-250 in the accuracy department and you won’t notice the 200fps deficit because it is just so consistent and easy to tune.

If I had a hankering to go faster, a 22 GT or a 22-6.5x47 Lapua would be where I would look now.

 

[linebaugh]

I shot a 22-250AI and switched to 22 BR. No comparison. 22 BR is a very good case for that caliber. Never shot light bullets. 88,90,95s.

Shoot a 22GT now and its fine but the BR was better but I had way more rounds on the BR than I do the GT. I wish now I would have went 22x47 L and not drank the coolaid.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Any one shooting a 14 twist 22 BR ??
Positives negatives what kind of velocities with 50gr bullets? How does it compare to a 22-250AI for performance besides the powder charge.

Let me know if you want one. I would suggest you get the 12 twist or 8 twist and shoot 80s. So much fun.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

I would LOVE to See, an Accuracy Test, between the .22 BR and the .22 GT, w/ 12 Twists, 53 gr. V-Maxes,...
SAME Barrel Maker, bbl. length, etc. ! ( Best Powder Load against, Best Powder Load ! ).
I'm leaning towards, the .22 GT due to, the tiny bit of, Extra, "Speed",.. just in case.

Is there ANY, accuracy,.. "Difference" ???

 

[AlNyhus]

I have two 22BR rifles....a .245 neck twisted 1:14 and a 'no turn' neck twisted 1:12. Both are incredibly accurate with a small edge to the neck turned chamber rig. A 1:12 gives the option of using bullets like the 53 VMax and the 55 BTip if you're into big box bullets.

For those interested in doing a 'no turn', make double damn sure that the reamer used will work with the neck diameter of whatever 6BR brass you use. Make up a few cases with the brass and verify the actual chamber neck diameter of the reamer.

A good 22-250 or 22-250AI,22CM, etc won't get close to a good 22BR's consistent accuracy, group after group.

Good shootin' -Al

 

[hogpatrol]

I have two, one a 12 Muller, shooting 55BKs at 3420. Great groundhog medicine. The other is a 7 twist shoots the heavy Bergers, especially the 85.5s, lights out.

 

[Shifty6br]

I absolutely love the little 22br!! I am running a faster twist Brux tho pushing 75gr vld at 3140fps but it does everything I need it to and more whether for target or thinning out some coyotes.

Accuracy is just abosolutely mind blowing, my local smith has Manson's .255 Nk which is working out great for a no turn chamber with necked down Lapua brass and 050 freebore reamer which is just perfect for the med heavies.

22br is one of those cartridges that I will always have a rifle chambered in it all times.

 

[Cbrown3020]

Many thanks to all for the information. I’m in the process of possibly working a trade for a 22 BR with a 14 twist barrel hopefully I can make it work with 40-50 grain bullets for my prairie dog trip next year. I already have an 8 twist 6 Br for the long work. Would like to think I can use the 22 out to 300 yds. Time will tell I guess. Again thank you all for the good information. Anyone who shoots a rig like this have any idea as to velocities achieved with these lighter bullets.

 

[ELR LVR]

Many thanks to all for the information. I’m in the process of possibly working a trade for a 22 BR with a 14 twist barrel hopefully I can make it work with 40-50 grain bullets for my prairie dog trip next year. I already have an 8 twist 6 Br for the long work. Would like to think I can use the 22 out to 300 yds. Time will tell I guess. Again thank you all for the good information. Anyone who shoots a rig like this have any idea as to velocities achieved with these lighter bullets.

I have a few 22 Br's in 13-14 twist.
I will go tighter twist when the barrels wear out but
they shoot fine with 50-55 grn bullets, including very accurate easy hits at 600 yds if there is no wind.
Stupidly accurate, I recently had my buddys 13 yrd old daughter with us shooting and let her shoot to boost her confidene at LR (600 yds)
making hits on steel every shot if all I did was set the gun on target, adjust the rear bag and tell her
"Just keep it still and ease the trigger"
she didnt seem to realize the awesomeness of it all and kind of got bored.
IE; 22 BR's are boringly accurate LOL.
I might add here, I found the 55 Nosler Varmint Ballistic tip very accurate with great consistency.
52 Bergers are awesome,
50 Speer TNT's are rather nice to shoot too but might enlarge groups to be in the
.3's
My load is shown in the pic if you want to experiment
I find they shoot best anywhere from .005" to .040" off the lands
Typically more like .015-.020" is where I end up
so you might start within that .040" window when finding a seating depth for a load
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You'll love it so much you might end up like me, wanting more than one
I really do like a 22-250 also just for ease of ready to use brass and not having to form and all that
but the brass work is worth it for the laser like accuracy a BR provides.
There is faster cartridges, heavier hitting cartridges, better LR cartridges
but when I want to be able to hit things like
tiny pieces of clay pigeon scattered around the field for fun
or shooting a bullet through your buddys bullet hole on his target just to razz him
I use the 22 BR

 

[Ackman]

My 22BR was originally a like new 22-250 40X with a 14twist. Thats what it was so that's what I used. Bought and immediately re-chambered to 22BR. This was 1989. In those days the 22BR was made from Rem. 7BR brass.....necking down and then neckturning. Chambers were 22 Rem BR. This one has a .243" nk., very short FB. The builder was an avid benchrest shooter and that was the reamer he used. Only bullets I've ever shot in that gun were the 50 Sierra Blitzking and Blitz. Blitz just so-so, the Blitzking very acurate with Reloder 15. That was the deal back then.. Early 90's I got a chrono .A couple groups in the .0's on the node.. Only .22 Ive ever had that would do that. It won't blow the 22-250AI away, it just won't, , but it's very accurate. Never shot any 55's in that rifle but have had very good results with them in other 14 twist barrels. I don't really care about shooting heavies in a .22.

* Barrel has since been shortened to 24" with a different brake.

 

[ELR LVR]

My 22BR was originally a like new 22-250 40X with a 14twist. Thats what it was so that's what I used. Bought and immediately re-chambered to 22BR. This was 1989. In those days the 22BR was made from Rem. 7BR brass.....necking down and then neckturning. Chambers were 22 Rem BR. This one has a .243" nk., very short FB. The builder was an avid benchrest shooter and that was the reamer he used. Only bullets I've ever shot in that gun were the 50 Sierra Blitzking and Blitz. Blitz just so-so, the Blitzking very acurate with Reloder 15. That was the deal back then.. Early 90's I got a chrono .A couple groups in the .0's on the node.. Only .22 Ive ever had that would do that. It won't blow the 22-250AI away, it just won't, , but it's very accurate. Never shot any 55's in that rifle but have had very good results with them in other 14 twist barrels. I don't really care about shooting heavies in a .22.

* Barrel has since been shortened to 24" with a different brake.

I did play with the Blitzkings a little bit in mine both in the
50 & 55 grainers
But if I used Sierra's
---mine seemed to really like the 50 gr Sierra Spitzers or the 53 Match (just to add further suggestions of bullets to try, you almost cant go wrong unless you're looking to shoot in the .1's)
BK's are great bullets though definitely worth using
Mine just seemed to prefer the Nosler version in 55 gr or I would still be using the BK's
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Now I might add, surprisingly, for a junk bullet, the 55FMJ which can be had for dirt cheap by bulk
Still will shot 1/2 MOA in a BR
So there's that if a guy wants to shoot a lot

 

[liseo]

There’s no reason to do a 14 twist. A 12 leaves nothing on the table and allows you to shoot a broad range of bullets better, including the 52/53gn boat tails that can be sometimes marginal in a 14 and are way better performers than any of the 50s. I am partial to a 7.7 twist with the 90gn bullets but that’s a different beast and I use it for 1000yd BR.

22BR runs circles around the 22-250 in the accuracy department and you won’t notice the 200fps deficit because it is just so consistent and easy to tune.

If I had a hankering to go faster, a 22 GT or a 22-6.5x47 Lapua would be where I would look now.

I used the .223 Remington with 90 grain Berger in Fclass TR events with excellent results. I would like to use these same bullets in my Stiller .22 BR Open class rifle, but the twist is 1/8. Will it stabilize ?
I don't have any left to test at the moment and would like to know before I buy more.

 

[kd4avp]

Let me know if you want one. I would suggest you get the 12 twist or 8 twist and shoot 80s. So much fun.

Curious in the 80s choice load for 22br. Running a 12 twist barrel on mine. Currently using 52 Berger fbhp with great results.

 

[Evan]

I used the .223 Remington with 90 grain Berger in Fclass TR events with excellent results. I would like to use these same bullets in my Stiller .22 BR Open class rifle, but the twist is 1/8. Will it stabilize ?
I don't have any left to test at the moment and would like to know before I buy more.

I shoot at 5000ft elevation and it works here with an 8 twist but by most calculators, it’s marginal. The Sierra 90gn is a little shorter and a safer bet. I have had equal or better results with the Sierra too.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Curious in the 80s choice load for 22br. Running a 12 twist barrel on mine. Currently using 52 Berger fbhp with great results.

Because 80 grain bullets are way better in bad conditions and can shoot just as small as the light bullets.

 

[AlNyhus]

Many thanks to all for the information. I’m in the process of possibly working a trade for a 22 BR with a 14 twist barrel hopefully I can make it work with 40-50 grain bullets for my prairie dog trip next year. I already have an 8 twist 6 Br for the long work. Would like to think I can use the 22 out to 300 yds. Time will tell I guess. Again thank you all for the good information. Anyone who shoots a rig like this have any idea as to velocities achieved with these lighter bullets.

Go to the Main page of this site. On the left are tabs for different cartridges...you'll find a 22BR tab. Open that and you'll find lots of info. Benchmark is a great powder for the lighter bullets. The 40 gr Nosler BTip in particular is a great 'dog bullet.

The 40 BTips are a touch over 4,000 and the excellent BIB 52 are really impressive at 3,650. Sub 1/4" five shots groups are the norm for any decent 22BR with this combo.

Good shootin' -Al

 

[padom]

I shoot a lot of 22BR and have had 4 or 5 barrels so far.

I mainly shoot 90smk which absolutely hammer...but I did test some 80smk and 80vld.. the 80smk shot better in my barrel but 80vld was no slouch..

https://imgur.com/6hlbl7q

28" Mullerworks 1:7
22BR
0.055" off lands
TL3/XLR Envy

80smk
29.5gr H4895
5xLapua
CCI 450


200yd - 5 shots

https://imgur.com/dLzVcAo

400yd - 5 shots

https://imgur.com/0kQmS0H

 

[STS]

I've had 2 .22BR barrels, 5 .22-250 barrels and 3 .22 Creedmoor barrels. All of which would shoot very small groups. The only difference is the effort required to keep them in tune. The larger the case the more difficult it is to keep tuned up.