30-30 pointed bullet

[Dimner]

You shot a buck at 40 yards 5 times? Unless you hit the CNS, you gotta give them some time to die.

If I snapped my fingers and my lungs and heart disappeared, I'd still be alive for a a minute or so. So a shot to the vitals doesn't always knock them over. Their instincts take over and they will do things before they know they are fatally injured.

 

[Jim Hankins]

I would try the 130 grain Speer hollow point varmint. The hollow point is big enough that I wouldn't worry about setting off a primer. Devastating on varmints and accurate out of my.308, should be fine on deer at 30-30 speed.

 

[MClark]

You shot a buck at 40 yards 5 times? Unless you hit the CNS, you gotta give them some time to die.

If I snapped my fingers and my lungs and heart disappeared, I'd still be alive for a a minute or so. So a shot to the vitals doesn't always knock them over. Their instincts take over and they will do things before they know they are fatally injured.

True.
I shot a buck at 30 yards with a 300 RUM. When cleaned the heart/lungs were brown liquid. It ran 40 yards before dropping.

in my Winchester 94 30-30 I have been using Sierra 125 Pro Hunter. One in chamber, one, never more, in the magazine. i have with me flat noses if I need to load up the mag to chase a wounded hog int the woods.

 

[rockhound78]

I had been loading the 130 speer fp, but now the Hornady 125 sst since I can't find the speer bullets

 

[Dimner]

I had been loading the 130 speer fp, but now the Hornady 125 sst since I can't find the speer bullets

I look love those 130 Speer fps. Hits hard! I use them in my Savage 1899 in 303 savage

 

[Jim Hankins]

I had been loading the 130 speer fp, but now the Hornady 125 sst since I can't find the speer bullets

I've killed a bunch of deer and a few coyotes while deer hunting with that bullet (130 Speer fp) with absolutely no complaints.

 

[gambleone]

What is your 30-30, lever action I assume? In my levers I’ve had ok results with Hornady 150gr round nose, they usually take the hit and run 20-40 yards and topple. However I tried some of Lehigh defense’s controlled chaos in one of my levers and it was a totally different result. One buck and one doe volunteered to be test subjects and both of those deer went down where they stood. The vitals were destroyed, both shots were behind the should off of the shoulder bones It really was impressive.

I’ve had a 30-30 in a Remington 788 and I have a #1 in 30-30. with those rifles you can use any .30 cal bullets you want pretty much. Both rifles are MOA capable. I’ve been using 150gr TGKs in the #1 with good results as far as accuracy, SD and ES but I haven’t filled a tag with it yet. If your 30-30 isn’t a lever or pump then your bullets choices just expanded by leaps and bounds.

Marlin 336 lever action.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

Hornady 30395 I load this bullet for my full length octagon Win. I have taken it as a backup rifle on public land elk hunts. I wonder how many elk,bear,wolf, coyote,antelope, moose have been killed with a 30/30. I also have used the Win 30/30 in running deer shoots at my club range, fun to beat the AR guys with a lever gun.

 

[rardoin]

Remington Core-Lokt 150gr.. I've cut a few out of the far side under the skin and they mushroom beautifully.

Kinda like girlfriends...newer is not necessarily better.

 

[K22]

My dad took 18 bucks and a bunch of doe's with a Model 94, open sight 30-30 Winchester with Remington Factory ammo.

Don't have the exact statistics, but read years ago that a poll taken showed more deer were taken with a 30-30 than any other caliber in PA.

 

[CaptainMal]

Crazy story.

Been using Marlin 30-30's since the 1950's. Back then it was the Remington 150 gr round nose or flat nose that killed for me. Then Hornady came out with those 160 gr. FTX bullets. What a game changer for distance.

Last deer I killed was about 260 yards and it was hit high in the shoulder and DRT. Now that was out of a Marlin 24" bbl. Yet, my old Marlin Carbine killed a darn nice 8 pt DRT just a couple years ago. Last year it did a doe in, walking at 150 yards. The bullet performance is super.

If you want to shoot SST's or another tipped bullet - go ahead in the Marlin carbine. Just load one in the chamber and ONLY ONE in the magazine tube. You don't need lots of shells in a magazine/tube to go BANG.

 

[SecretCode]

Bobby Temok was prevalent on the former specialty pistol forums but still is on quite a few other forums i.e. 24hrcampfire and savageshooters forum under the specialty pistol/carbine sections. He mostly shoots single shot thompson centers but has loaded alot of 110 gr monolithic's from Barnes and hornady. Those tipped bullets are not to be confused with the hornady flex tip for the 30-30. 1 in the pipe and 1 in the in the tube and no more would be maybe be something to play with.

 

[Jim Hankins]

Has there ever been a confirmed case of a 30-30 having a round or rounds go off in the magazine? The only case I can recall was with a .450 Alaskan in a 71 Winchester, which has a bit more recoil than the 30-30. I think it would be hard to set off a primer with anything other than possibly a fmj pointed military bullet...

 

[CaptainMal]

Has there ever been a confirmed case of a 30-30 having a round or rounds go off in the magazine? The only case I can recall was with a .450 Alaskan in a 71 Winchester, which has a bit more recoil than the 30-30. I think it would be hard to set off a primer with anything other than possibly a fmj pointed military bullet...

Testing my memory on that one. Back in the 50's and 60's the pointed bullets were all FMJ or had lead points. Really do not remember anything like the HP's and tipped bullets we have today. Yet, I think I saw a Win. 94 with the magazine tube blown apart.

No details. Just know it cannot be much of a real problem but more of a long-standing myth. Just pushing bullets into a tube with lots of pressure on the primer in front, using the new Hornady FTX with the "gummy" tip, makes me uncomfortable.

 

[Mark W]

Has there ever been a confirmed case of a 30-30 having a round or rounds go off in the magazine? The only case I can recall was with a .450 Alaskan in a 71 Winchester, which has a bit more recoil than the 30-30. I think it would be hard to set off a primer with anything other than possibly a fmj pointed military bullet...

You’re probably right, but the risk vs reward just isn’t worth it, IMO.

 

[dellet]

I would think that a couple of factors might cause primers to go off in a tube magazine. One being cycling rate, the other being repeatedly hitting the same primer.

There have been well documented cases of first round slam fires in AR 15/M16 duty rifles where the top round was chambered and then put back on top. Eventually enough floating pin strikes set it off.
In a lever action that remained with the magazine loaded for hunting season the same thing would happen in the tube every time a round was chambered. Or shoot two load two, the rest of the stack just keeps hitting the primer in front of it.

 

[Bill K]

What distance were the 5 shots at?

Would be intersting to know not just distance, but where he hit the deer. Vital area i.e. lung/heart, or body parts, i.e. legs, hams or low gut area. That could make a difference with any bullet make or style.

 

[Jim Hankins]

I would think that a couple of factors might cause primers to go off in a tube magazine. One being cycling rate, the other being repeatedly hitting the same primer.

There have been well documented cases of first round slam fires in AR 15/M16 duty rifles where the top round was chambered and then put back on top. Eventually enough floating pin strikes set it off.
In a lever action that remained with the magazine loaded for hunting season the same thing would happen in the tube every time a round was chambered. Or shoot two load two, the rest of the stack just keeps hitting the primer in front of it.

Hard enough to dent a primer??? Primers are generally set off by a single blow. I really don't think a 30-30 will recoil that much, especially with no running room between the rounds...

 

[gambleone]

Would be intersting to know not just distance, but where he hit the deer. Vital area i.e. lung/heart, or body parts, i.e. legs, hams or low gut area. That could make a difference with any bullet make or style.

Was a friend of mine who shot the deer. Didn't hit heart or lungs or spine. No vital areas.

 

[Bill K]

Then that would explain five hits and deer not going down quickly. At least, I hope, he was able to track it down and finally get the deer for his freezer.
Overall it was not the bullets lack of performance, but the shooter and shot placement.