A Polish outlook on our 2nd Amendment.

[Tesoro]

I copied this from a youtube comment on a US made video on subsonic loads. (!!!)

USA has some weird gun regulations... a combination of extreme accessibility and extreme restrictions. What has the barrel length or overall gun length to do with legality of a firearm? Also... I hear there are states (or maybe it is on the federal level?) where you are limited to one gun per month? I am a collector and in my country it is enough of a reason to apply for a permit, so I passed psych evaluation, background check, general physical fitness test (eyes, balance, coordination), passed a written gun law test, passed a practical safety, gun handling and accuracy test and got my first batch of 10 permission slips I could use at will at any gun store or to make a private purchase. If I find few interesting guns in one place at one tile - I can buy them. The only bother is I have to register them within 5 working days and I can't do that online. Rifles are rifles, handguns are handguns, shotguns are shotguns and nobody in the government is interested what additional grips or stock I attach, if I shorten my barrel or extend it... Hell, a classic sawn-off shotgun would be perfectly legal as long I don't damage the serial number. And when I use up my 10 permission slips I just request more (it would probably cause a visit from the local cop to see if my gun storage is sufficient but it is just an administrative procedure that will cost me about $4 per one permission slip). And things like magazines or suppressors - are non-essential gun parts and I can order them online without any legal hassle from all over the Europe.

 

[Sandstorm]

That there sure sums it up...ain it grand.

 

[DShortt]

Fear mongering.

The gun laws are the result of fear mongering.

People are afraid of things they don't understand.

 

[ronsatspokane]

The patchwork of gun laws in the US are due to government violations of the 2nd amendment. True at the federal and at the state and even the city levels. The federal government was never granted the power to regulate firearms by the Constitution. Quite the opposite, the 2nd amendment precludes government regulation. Then there are the states and cities who blatantly violate the 2nd amendment knowing full well that their restrictions will be overturned when lawsuits reach the SCOTUS but they don't care. Anything they can do to make life for law abiding citizens difficult is their goal.

 

[Loudenboomer]

Not really liking the register them within 5 days part.

 

[Tesoro]

Not really liking the register them within 5 days part.

You know it could be a govt cross check to make sure the gun dealer didnt sell them to someone else.

 

[cavedweller60]

Fear mongering.

The gun laws are the result of fear mongering.

People are afraid of things they don't understand.

I agree but, you would think there would come a point that common sense took hold. As the comment quoted in the OP, there is absolutely no common sense in the US gun laws. I am guessing that politicians in Poland are just as clueless as politicians there but, they appear to have far more common sense there. It is almost embarrassing.

 

[jelenko]

Yeah, but "........ psych evaluation, background check, general physical fitness test (eyes, balance, coordination), passed a written gun law test, passed a practical safety, gun handling and accuracy test "

 

[Sandstorm]

They would feel not needed if they did'nt regulate something...or have some control.

psych evaluation, background check, general physical fitness test (eyes, balance, coordination), passed a written gun law test, passed a practical safety, gun handling and accuracy test "

 

[Abram]

So to own a gun you want me to pass a Psych evaluation, right, in this country the dems would have a field day with that. You want me to pass a background check, no problem, you want me to pass 5 different tests and register my firearms, right, at each stage in this country the anti-gun dems could use that to deny your ownership. I love it when someone from another country likes to educate me on how wonderful their system works and how bad ours is, just like the Brits who say universal government healthcare is great, yeah right, I worked with British people and it isn't what you think it is.

 

[outasite`08]

They would feel not needed if they did'nt regulate something...or have some control.

That`s the problem, the gov. wants to control it all. Jeff

 

[Emmett Dibble]

Psych test.... the tards would have a field day with that.

 

[hogpatrol]

I heard a politician once say "When people fail to use common sense, the government steps in". Unfortunately common sense isn't common anymore and it pretty much sums up many but not all laws and regulations. Example: Here in a lot of the northeast, we haven't had rain for over a month. Leaves are everywhere and it's so dry, there's an outdoor burning ban. Last evening I thought I heard gunshots until I looked out the window to see aerial fireworks (they're already illegal) in the night sky. Common sense? Yeah, right.

 

[ebb]

Government has through the school system, especially colleges has taught them not to have common sense.

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

As an outsider I have to agree your country has some of the dumbest/weirdest laws when it comes to FAs and hunting

 

[hogpatrol]

As an outsider I have to agree your country has some of the dumbest/weirdest laws when it comes to FAs and hunting

That's because we have some of the dumbest voters in the world. They'll elect someone for a reason unrelated to their abilities to govern.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Using POLAND as an example of freedom in any context would have General Patton spitting mad from his grave...

 

[jelenko]

That's because we have some of the dumbest voters in the world. They'll elect someone for a reason unrelated to their abilities to govern.

Is it really different in other democracies?

 

[joshb]

I heard a politician once say "When people fail to use common sense, the government steps in". Unfortunately common sense isn't common anymore and it pretty much sums up many but not all laws and regulations. Example: Here in a lot of the northeast, we haven't had rain for over a month. Leaves are everywhere and it's so dry, there's an outdoor burning ban. Last evening I thought I heard gunshots until I looked out the window to see aerial fireworks (they're already illegal) in the night sky. Common sense? Yeah, right.

That's because we have some of the dumbest voters in the world. They'll elect someone for a reason unrelated to their abilities to govern.

It was probably a celebration at Joe’s house. It’s OK for the ruling class, not us commoners. That’s what it’s become. They have they’re own health care system, they can vote they’re own pay raises, etc.
On point two: Why would a movie star be predisposed to be a good elected official?
Stupid comes into the discourse because a couple of sound bites seems to be all you need to get elected.

 

[mikecr]

Our government has figured out how to regulate and tax to their will -in lieu of actual laws (since they can't pass any). Now every agency has gone rogue with their controls over us.
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