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My Young's Gunsmithing 338 Lapua Improved, Something a little different

A while back I received this rifle from Dave at Young’s Gunsmithing in Sand Coulee, MT. I’ve spent quite a bit of time with it so far and have been very pleased. I thought I’d share some details.

Stiller TAC338 receiver with 20 MOA rail, single shot configuration
Bartlein HV contour barrel, 32” finish, 9.5 twist that has been chambered in 338 Rogue (338 Lapua Improved 40° shoulder)
Cooley Extra Large Brake
McMillan A4, sniper fill (This thing was a complete mess. Fortunately, I didn’t pay much for it.)
Young’s Gunsmithing 5.5” Light Block
Timney Calvin Elite trigger
ADL trigger guard
All metal is coated in black Cerakote
She’s a portly girl, tipping the scales at 21.2# with the scope. In retrospect, I should have fluted the barrel and not gone with the sniper fill. I certainly won’t be packing up any mountains, but I do appreciate how the weight mitigates recoil.

I’ll try and explain what is going on with this rifle…

Dave calls this particular configuration a “Medium Light-Block Rifle”. The aluminum block is used to support the barrel rather than having the weight of the barrel hanging off of the barrel thread tenon of the receiver. This drastically reduces the stresses imposed onto even the most robust receiver and really seems to help increase repeatability and consistency. This is especially beneficial when working with a flimsy standard Remington 700 action. The lower half of the block is permanently secured into the stock. The top half can be removed and is secured into place with fourteen lightly-torqued 8-40 screws. The block measures 5.5” long and only ads about 4.5 oz. The receiver is completely floated and only needs to support the weight of itself, the scope, scope rail and trigger. It also eliminates the recoil lug. This rifle uses the 5.5” block but he also offers a 4.5” block that is designed for use with common “off the shelf” barrel contours like the M40, Heavy Varmint and similar. The 7” block is for 1.350” barrels and large stocks like the Tooley BR.

What I find most appealing about this configuration is that it really takes a lot of the rifle out of the equation with regard to consistency for long range hits. Once I found a load for it, it has pretty much not deviated from about a 0.3-0.4 MOA performer to 1015 yards (as far as I’ve been able to take it so far). I’ve struggled in the past with rifles (even customs) shooting well under 0.5 MOA one day, only to shoot a week or two later and have it struggle to shoot under 1.0 MOA with the same load. The block seems to have minimized that response in long, heavy contour barreled rifles. In essence, the block accomplishes what a giant bench rest style action does, but with virtually any factory action and more practical options for stocks. I now find that I am forced to blame the shooter rather than the rifle for misses. As my dad used to say, “Blame the Indian, not the arrow”.

I picked the A4 stock up sight-unseen, but I figured the price was too good to pass up. Dave was able to salvage the stock which had been modified over the years by someone that must have suffered from a mental disorder. There were metal chunks bedded into the barrel channel, 4-6 coats of paint, and the bottom metal inlet was very poorly done...likely with a crude, Neanderthal, poking device. Rather than removing all of the paint, I elected to get after it with the Krylon and a sponge. It came out OK, but I think strip-down and repaint are in its future.

Future plans are to replace the FFP scope with a SFP and a better bipod. The FFP reticle just becomes too obstructive at very long ranges… This might just be personal preference. I also plan on another one on an old Winchester 70 in either a McMillan A5, or A3-5 since any of the McMillan A-series stocks are compatible with the block. The new build will likely be a repeater since a DBM can be installed by bedding threaded pillars into the stock and using factory style fasters. It should come in under 12# without scope.






 
The block is locked in place with an epoxy. I've not seen the block when not installed but I recall them mentioning that it creates a mechanical lock somehow. Whatever the case, it's not coming out.

I am not sure if the will sell a block only.
 
A friend of mine headed out to work with some of his rifles yesterday and took this rifle along to try. He shot this group. It's only three shots but measured just under 0.3 MOA.

He ran it over my chrono and it seems to have gained roughly 30 fps. The three shots averaged 2962 fps. Conditions were about the same as the last time I shot over a chrono. It passed 220 rounds while he was shooting it. I've read that Bartlein barrels require 150-200 rounds before they really settle in.


 
The Gilkes-Ross aluminum stocks did this about 15 years ago. They have a significantly smaller block that clamps onto the barrel but the premise is the same, the action is 100% floated. Those rifles also shot very well, and we're also single shot.

The block you show is much longer and I wonder of it is profiled for the specific barrel or if the barrel needs to be ordered with a 5-6" parallel? If it is profile specific, is the barrel bedded into the barrel block?


Nice piece, and clearly a shooter!

Chris
 
What sort of keyboard are you using? You have keys I don't...

The thread is over a year old, before the switch over of the new sight. When the switch happened some letters and numbers ended up being screwed up on several threads. Think it had to do with what kind of operating system it was created on.

Some nice machining and fitments thier. Gives me an idea for a 375 cheytac I have on the list to build. Definitely a fine looking/shooting rifle
 
The Gilkes-Ross aluminum stocks did this about 15 years ago. They have a significantly smaller block that clamps onto the barrel but the premise is the same, the action is 100% floated. Those rifles also shot very well, and we're also single shot.

The block you show is much longer and I wonder of it is profiled for the specific barrel or if the barrel needs to be ordered with a 5-6" parallel? If it is profile specific, is the barrel bedded into the barrel block?


Nice piece, and clearly a shooter!

Chris


Yes,

He specs out the barrels to have a very long shank so they can be turned down. He does have a smaller block that accommodates the Heavy Varmint - M40 type barrels.
 
I am sold on this block rifle concept and the consistency it provides. I had another one built on an FN SPR action that I am using for field-practical matches. It uses a smaller block than the 338 and is chambered in 6.5x47. There is no POI shift with the suppressor and it consistently shoots under 0.5 MOA regardless of environmental conditions. This one is in a McMillan A5 with CDI DBM that is secured to the stock with epoxied aluminum/threaded pillars so that the action remains floated.



 
My DE action & barrel are floated. In 2016 "floated" was--and is--forever etched in my mind. This 22# 338LMAI, in its Pelican coffin floated for three days in the Koyukuk River... Encased it comes to exactly 50# and there wasn't even a hint of water or silt inside!
 
That load is almost identical to mine and matching velocity to boot. The only difference is I run mine in the lands. Matt
That extra barrel length helps. Mine is around that velocity as well but with a couple more grains of powder and a couple less inches of barrel. Hard to beat " Free" velocity.
 
My new barrel needs 5 grains more powder to reach that velocity. Might be because it's a 5C Obermeyer and not a 4 groove Krieger. Matt
My Broughton barrel is faster than any other barrel I've used. I have a number of them on different builds and my 338 Lapua Imp is a Broughton. I'm right at 105 grains of RL33 for that 3000 fps mark with a 29" barrel.
 

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