If one was looking for a little more speed.......

[Bill Norris]

3,500+ with 68's, that is more than I am hoping for.

I would be more than happy with that.

@wildcatter Yeah, it is a serious target gun, although I will be using it as a learner gun at a second tier game.

Sounds like N133 is a good place to start.

Honestly, I don't think you would do any better over-all than VV-N133. Although, I do agree with Bart Sauter sometimes it can be very finicky when atmospheric conditions are rambling all over the place.

 

[Chris Mackey]

If you're looking for more MV than 133 can give you in a 6ppc with a 65 grain bullets, then you need more 133 in the case. I'm not trying to be funny, it took me a couple years of playing with 133 to learn, but the upper nodes takes a nice slow pour and a long drop tube. If you're not comfortable, then you shouldn't do it.

 

[Sandbagger1]

If you're looking for more MV than 133 can give you in a 6ppc with a 65 grain bullets, then you need more 133 in the case. I'm not trying to be funny, it took me a couple years of playing with 133 to learn, but the upper nodes takes a nice slow pour and a long drop tube. If you're not comfortable, then you shouldn't do it.

I was going to tell him to talk to Jeff Peinhardt. He gets speed out of his ppc. I seen his chrono the other day at the East west shoot and it was right below 3700fps with a 65.5 gr bt

 

[Bill Norris]

I was going to tell him to talk to Jeff Peinhardt. He gets speed out of his ppc. I seen his chrono the other day at the East west shoot and it was right below 3700fps with a 65.5 gr bt

That is definitely picking them up and putting them back down for a 6PPC. But if you ever heard him describe his powder charges it is understandable.

 

[jxb]

Yeah loved his comment about his loads... something about only getting a few reloads out of a case.

 

[gpoldblue]

Yeah loved his comment about his loads... something about only getting a few reloads out of a case.

I hate to think about what all that pressure is doing to the bolt lugs in the rifle and the receiver. Also,in his book,Harrold Vaughn said that the receiver expanded and retracted .001'" to .0015" every time the rifle fired and that was with reasonable loads(28.0gn/VV-133) in the 6PPC rifle he was working with. Just something to think about. You don't get something for nothing.

 

[SteveOak]

If you're looking for more MV than 133 can give you in a 6ppc with a 65 grain bullets, then you need more 133 in the case. I'm not trying to be funny, it took me a couple years of playing with 133 to learn, but the upper nodes takes a nice slow pour and a long drop tube. If you're not comfortable, then you shouldn't do it.

Drop tube is not an issue, I have done it before. How much 133 were you using? 65gr bullet?

 

[BartsBullets]

Drop tube is not an issue, I have done it before. How much 133 were you using? 65gr bullet?

Steve,

Another thing about 133 and how fast a given load will go. It depends on your year and lot number of powder. Not all 133 is the same. I have two different lots of 2022. One is what I would consider regular the other very Hot! I have several different containers of 133 from say 2007 and 2008. They are quite slow. They shoot fine but produce a lot less velocity per grain.

Also a bullet jammed into the rifling will go faster than a bullet that is not.

Just so you know!

Bart