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.22 Creedmoor Website... classic

There is a guy who shows up at the Michigan NRC meeting every year lobbying to be able to hunt deer with spear and/or a knife. I always am reminded of him when I read about these debates on what is needed to hunt and kill a deer.
sounds like tim wells : https://slockmaster.com/

he has amazing videos of taking game and non-game species with all sorts of 'human propelled' devices. the pov vids where he mounts a goPro on a spear shaft are particularly frightening

and now, back to your regularly scheduled programming...
 
To be fair, none of the .22-243 Middlestead, .220, .22-47L, .22-250AI, .22 TTH (.22-6mmAI), etc. "generally accepted massively overbore twenty-twos" would do much better.

.220 Redline (.22 SAUM) might, but only if you had 100+ grain bullets that could hang tough, and still upset when they got there.
But how many of those cartridges are on the shelf at Cabela's? Can the average joe go down to the corner gun shop and buy ammo for any of those? Not everybody is a tinkerer and the percentage of shooters that handload is pretty small. The .22 Creedmoor is just a turn-key, over-the-counter option for a configuration that previously had to be custom.
 
People reload hoss and you can shoot 55 and 60 gr in them just fine. The people buying these rifles are buying them because of the fast twist barrel not because of ammo availability
In the grand scheme of things, very few people are handloading. When you want to shoot heavy bullets in traditional cartridges, you aren't going to buy factory-loaded ammo because the SAAMI spec twist-rates are too slow.
 
I find it funny that there is so much controversy / hate about any firearm cartridge. I get it, everyone has their favorite and there are those that have blown the Creedmoor fantasy out of proportion because they don't know any better.
I've only been shooting / hunting / reloading since the 1970's, so I dang sure don't know it all. What I do know is I have firearm's in 17 different cartridges, and enjoy shooting / reloading for all of them.
There is no such thing as a magic cartridge that can do it all, they all have their limitations on performance.

When the 6.5 CM came out in 2007, I was skeptical about all the hype I read about it. In 2009, I built my first one. It was probably the easiest cartridge I've ever shot to find an accurate load for right out of the gate.

Several years ago, I met Derrick the owner of Horizon Firearms at a Sportsman Expo in Ft. Worth. He had just started building his 22 CM rifles. I actually sold him a bunch of 75gr AMax bullet's that I wasn't going to use at the time. I never gave the 22 CM much thought.
When American Rifle Co. came out with their Nucleus action, I bought one. I didn't know what I was going to build, but decided what the hell, I'll try the 22 CM. It was going to be used for varmint / hog / and maybe whitetail depending on the bullet's it would shoot good.
I must say that it impressed me, it shoots fantastic, and does a number on coyotes & hogs. I haven't ever tried it on deer, but it should probably work just fine depending on the distance and bullet choice used.

I even built a 25 CM for fun when Berger came out with the 133 and 135 grain .257" bullets. Just haven't had much time to shoot it.
I'm a fan of the Creedmoor case, not a Fan Boy. I have too many other guns in cartridge's that will do things better, and other's that don't.
 
I think this thread is off track a little, so allow me to steer:

This was not about the virtues of the Creedmoor headstamp.

This not not about .22 versus 6 versus 6.5.

This was not about custom vs factory, in rifles or loads.


I made this thread to point out the..structure.....of a promotional website.
 

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