nakneker
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It’s politics definitely lean left but I wouldn’t want to be the one trying to enforce it.
Whoa - Hodgdon Powder Price Increase
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6.5 forever
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joshb
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Thanks for the nudge, guys. I went to the local Gibson’s for mouse traps. Wandered over to the reloading section and saw an 8 of H335 for $365. I had ignored it for a few months because of the price. Now, it seems like a bargain so I grabbed it.
Now I have to do some math to make sure I have enough primers to load it.
OK. I need 6000 primers to load my stash for 223. I’ll get some more as a cushion.
Now I have to do some math to make sure I have enough primers to load it.
OK. I need 6000 primers to load my stash for 223. I’ll get some more as a cushion.
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I was at Cabela's yesterday. The only rifle primers they had in stock and it wasn't a lot was CCI BR4's/small rifle match.
NO 1k count boxes. Only could buy them per 100 packs. Each pack was $16.49! If your doing the math that's $165 per thousand.
Had small qty of small pistol primers and only a few hundred of large pistol and that was it.
NO 1k count boxes. Only could buy them per 100 packs. Each pack was $16.49! If your doing the math that's $165 per thousand.
Had small qty of small pistol primers and only a few hundred of large pistol and that was it.
Was looking for something to do Saturday so I thought I would go to Grice gun shop in Clearfield Pennsylvania. Bought a friend of mine an 8 pound jug of H 4350 for $334.95. Bought myself 2000 205M primers at $95 per, plus the governor of course. Crazy thing is I got out of there feeling almost like I robbed the bank. When seeing what the new norm is out there you just get used to it, but that doesn’t mean you have to like it! With the addition of those primers to my stash, I am hopefully done buying components for the rest of my shooting career. All my components and barrels on hand equalize out now. The last time I bought 205M primers they were a little under $30 out the door. I believe the last time I bought H 4350 for my self it was $189.00!!
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urbanrifleman
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One guy will own almost the entire ammo production for the country, and he's not an American. Not even a little bit does he have to sell any American a thing. He could shift all production over to commercial private contracts, and no one could do a thing. He could CLOSE all of it and move the equipment to another country of his choice. People don't remember this has already happened in almost every other industry. It's like no one remembers anything.
divingin
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I've seen $145/K for BR4's pretty often online, so you're not too far off.
I don’t disagree but I fail to see how it relates or helps or makes sense in any way. In my opinion the point is, shooting hobbies are getting cost prohibitive. Race cars have always been, and shooting historically has not been.
Over the weekend I was at a LGS, and found the Alliance powders have gone way up. RL-16 and RL-15.5 were 72.99 a pound. The Hodgdon powders went up a little bit from 49.99 to 52.99 at pound for Varget and H4350. Winchester powders have stayed about the same 44.99 pound for StaBall Match and 39.95 a pound for 748.
Rick in Oregon
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The rising cost of powder for high volume colony varmint shooting has made me use my 20VT and 221FB much more now due to their miserly appetite for powder over my old favorites like the 223AI and 243AI.
It also helps that over the years I've laid in more powders and primers during pre-covid than I may ever need; all at decent prices that will never return to "normal". My primers were all purchased for around $35/100, powder for what I then called at the time "ridiculous" was all priced at $25/lb.
Those of us now into 'geezerhood' can really relate to what has become of our hobby and pastime, the ruination called "Bidenomics".
It also helps that over the years I've laid in more powders and primers during pre-covid than I may ever need; all at decent prices that will never return to "normal". My primers were all purchased for around $35/100, powder for what I then called at the time "ridiculous" was all priced at $25/lb.
Those of us now into 'geezerhood' can really relate to what has become of our hobby and pastime, the ruination called "Bidenomics".
urbanrifleman
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I am not sure that comparing powder going up nearly 5 times as being "relatively cheap" as compared to say, yachting, offers much in the way of consolation.
No race cars haven't always been that way at all.
I guess technically you can take any two cars and race them. Even regional dirt track racing is extremely expensive. I guess it’s up to your idea of racing. Never mind.
When I was a crewmember of Jim Wemett's funny car team in 76 when I was 18 years old there were a ton of guy's like Wemett who owned nitro funny cars and they would travel all over the county just match racing. There were over 700 guy's that had Nitro funny car licenses at the time and a guy could make some decent money by just match racing. I remember Jim telling me to drive the dually to Columbus Ohio at the 76 Spring nationals from his base in Macedon, NY to pick up a 55 gallon drum of nitro and a set of M&H Racemaster slicks from Marv Richin's vendor truck that was at the track selling and mounting tires for some of the racer's there. Nitro was 10 bucks a gallon, Methanol was 2 and the slicks were $250 a pair. I got to see Shirley Muldowney make drag racing history that Sunday with a win in the Top Fuel final when she beat Bob Edwards, from MD. Those days of the small guy's being weekend warriors when everything was so cheap are long gone. I was very fortunate that I got to experience what I did and to meet some of the best know people in funny car racing at the peak of it's inception. Take a look what a drum of 100 percent nitro will cost you now, anywhere between 3 grand to 3500.
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I think it’s an interesting story no doubt.
But you’re just making my point sir.
How many people in 1976 could afford to do this? Sounds like not even you. You mentioned the small guy, driving across the country but methenol, nitro and $250 slicks. And you were apparently part of the paid team.
Don’t exactly sound like poor guy sport or middle class. Even in 1976. But maybe I’m poor white trash and don’t know it. Compared to race teams I guess I’m pretty low rent.
Anyway, who cares, powder and bullets are getting stupid. The end
divingin
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I suspect his point wasn't so much that it was cheap, as it was that it was affordable to more people then compared to now - that more people had the disposable income to do that kind of thing (that's not even mentioning the corporate driven technological advances that have driven costs up.) I mean at least he knew someone who could; I don't know of anyone today who does.
If you look at cost of living vs wages between then and now, you'll see that COL has gone up by close to or over 100% overall, while wages have increases 10 - 25%. A lot more people are living paycheck to paycheck now compared to then (assuming they're making a living - I personally don't see how those making near minimum wage can even survive, especially in urban areas.)
Or maybe I'm just blowing smoke. I don't know.
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