Cool. Always fun tinkering with BR shooters. Did y’all shoot some groups with the ejector in and then shoot some more after pulling it out?
What are the positive things of removing the Ejector from bolt? ( 700) style bolt
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That is exactly what we did!
Since accuracy improved without an ejector in place on the Remington 700 actions we tested, we had our gunsmith install a titanium rod in the ejector hole and re-cut the bolt face, as this became a permanent modification.
With hunting actions I convert to single shot, remove the ejector, and remove the safety.
With most BAT actions, I order without ejection.
I have one BAT, and I had a Savage with standing blade ejection.
That's perfect in that I can do a controlled throw into a hat on the bench, or I can stop short & pick the round in the field.
With most BAT actions, I order without ejection.
I have one BAT, and I had a Savage with standing blade ejection.
That's perfect in that I can do a controlled throw into a hat on the bench, or I can stop short & pick the round in the field.
jds holler
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I've got to the point where I get a case of stink eye anytime I see someone jack a case out on the ground. Even with their rifle and their own cases.
Kind of like ya get when ya see someone kick their dog. jd
Kind of like ya get when ya see someone kick their dog. jd
I've gone back to full strength(or close) springs and built a brass catcher apparatus. It works quite well. I'll have to try to get a pic. Several I shoot with have seen it at work. It's a neat way to keep it all together. Often, I never take the brass out until I get home, with 150+ spent cases in it. I just twist the cloth bag closed and put it in the truck. Get home and put it in the tumbler or whatever.
NorCalMikie
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If the ejector rod DOES cock the round to the opposite side, maybe start checking the chamber for slop?
No slop in none of these chambers - GUARANTEED!!!If the ejector rod DOES cock the round to the opposite side, maybe start checking the chamber for slop?
Seems logical that whatever amount of clearance there is in any chamber even minute the ejector could push by applying that much pressure.
Correct!
NorCalMikie
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So, don't sweat the small stuff.
So, if you can't hit what you're aiming at, it's the ejector rod?? Got it.
Alex Wheeler
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Id say my BR customers are about 50/50 on drop port vs dual port. So I have built a lot of rifles on both. Both have set multiple records. If theres a difference in accuracy with or with out an ejector I have never seen it. All of my long range hunting rifles are always tuned without an ejector. Just saves me the hassle of removing it all the time to check seating. I put the ejectors in only for hunting season. Never seen a change in accuracy or tune there either.
This has all been hashed out many times and many years ago. Bottom line is...if you think it matters, then it does, but realistically, there are many national championships and world records set/won with ejectors in place. I personally have never seen accuracy hurt due to one.
NC/Br Shooter
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Iv had two sets with it out now. I was convinced after the first go round. My second session was a powder charge test with new pills that went really well. It's not going back in. I went over to the edge of my bench and found a few pieces of brass that I didn't know where lost but they had ther a week. That was before I took the Ejector out. Mine just had a ton of spring to it, And I could see it possibly causing a small inconsistenty.
You're thinking of this from a perspective of bore alignment, similar to folks considering runout.
But folks have also seen that the affects of runout never show up until running out of chamber clearances because of it. So a tight chamber is more sensitive to loaded TIR than a sloppy chamber.
That's not a bore alignment matter, it's a chambered tension issue.
If you have an excessive side force on a chambered round, due to an excessive ejector force, you have established the same condition that excessive runout would (for that chamber).
And again, sloppy chambers are less sensitive to it -even while bore alignment could be affected more.
So it's not about bore alignment
I think we might be oversimplifying this a bit, too. There's more going on than the case debatably being pushed sideways, by a tiny bit if the brass fits well in the chamber,(something less than .001 TIR) for a few reasons. But what happens when the fp strikes the primer, centered, with 28lbs plus inertia that is probably several times that 28lbs/psi, driving the case forward against the shoulder? That ejector spring's pressure has no inertia, so whatever light pressure it exerts when tuned is static and essentially constant. Also, what happens when the case comes back against the bolt face? Lots going on in a very short amount of time any way you slice it.
Again, this all sounds good on paper and theory but the record of guns with ejectors is absolutely outstanding vs the what ifs and maybes that might be, with an ejector. Not to mention, the increase in speed(small if done right) that an ejector benefits us with. I think like many things discussed and debated on the interweb, we're probably much better off shooting more and typing less.
Testing is how we know things.
Again, this all sounds good on paper and theory but the record of guns with ejectors is absolutely outstanding vs the what ifs and maybes that might be, with an ejector. Not to mention, the increase in speed(small if done right) that an ejector benefits us with. I think like many things discussed and debated on the interweb, we're probably much better off shooting more and typing less.
Testing is how we know things.
Here's a pic of my brass catcher setup that works well for me...fwiw. it's close to where it is in use but probably not exact. It catches them pretty much 100% even with two different guns, both set up for it with original or close to it spring tension...fwiw.
Slick as snot in use! Poor pic and I need to have a talk with my seamstress. Lol! But it's functional.
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NC/Br Shooter
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Looking at that case catcher, that's a great set up.
I also was looking at that rest,from what I could see. It looks, interesting, what kind of front rest is this, if you don't mind me asking
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