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FYI on Airguns

I read the thread “Precession Airguns,” and for the most part, I agree with what was said. There are one or two things I would disagree but I would be nit-picking.

One thing that wasn’t brought up in the thread and is something one should know before a new shooter wants to jump head first in to PCP’s. It is something almost everyone who bought a higher end PCP must deal with and that’s resale value.

Some shooters are perfectly ok with taking a huge lost on a sale because that’s the way it is. But if you are coming from a powder burner world, you will need to understand you will take a huge lost if you decide PCP’s are not your thing.

The up-front cost of getting in to PCP’s is a lot money but once the basics are purchased, shooting pellets are super cheap, very fun, and tons and tons of other benefits. Depending on what you purchase, you could tune your gun days on end (FX) or you could buy one and never touch anything (Daystate). There are other makers who are just as good as FX or Daystate and nothing wrong with trying something else( Edgun, Cricket, AAA, AA, AF, BSA, AGT, Taipan, and on and on)

The biggest player in the airgun world is FX. FX is an amazing company who has been the leader in innovation in pcp’s, and this in my opinion is why everyone who wants to sell will take a huge lost. FX has been coming out with new products every 6 months for the past 7 or 8 years and this make last years products obsolete. If you buy any kind PCP from any maker, your purchase will not be wanted next year. This also includes if you purchase a use pcp at a 60 to 70 percent discount. When it comes to selling your outdated PCP (new or used), just plan on selling your PCP at 60 percent or less what you bought it at. If you bought a lesser known airgun maker, plan on losing 60 to 70 percent.

For example, I’ve bought and sold many airguns from almost every manufacturer (new and used) numbering in the 15s. I bought a used Taipan veteran .22 for $1100 which a thought was a good price. A year later, I got tired of this pcp and wanted to sell it. After months of trying to sell it, I ended up trade it for another useless pcp when I couldn’t sell a 1.5 year old Taipan for $600.

If you compare this to the powder-burner world, I have this story. I’ve been looking for a Savage 110 in any caliber because I’m only after the action. I found someone selling a 25 year old 110 for $480 and I’m thinking the person probably bought that 110 new in ’98 for $350.

Another story is I a sold a Savage 12 FV with all the upgrades done to it and I broke even with it. I got back what I put in to that gun. The purchaser got a good deal and I broke even. Everyone is happy. This will never happen in the PCP world.

I could go on and on about other stuff in the PCP world like the very bias RMAC (FX) and EBR (Daystate) but this would be for someone who was looking at competing. Another FYI would be why PCP’s are so expensive (or are they)? FX’s Fanboys and FX haters are similar to Creedmoor Fanboy and Creedmoor haters. FX’s cliques at RMAC and Daystate’s cliques at EBR and on and on but for now I think the extreme amount of money you could lose in PCP's is a big one.
 
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Now here is the opposite side with spring guns. The top end guns such as Air Arms TX200, Weihrauch 97 require for the most part getting on wait list to buy in recent years. Few come up used and are often at new or above new prices because they have been tuned or have custom stocks. The spring guns have remained the same for many years, most designs dating back 40 or more years. Some of the top end guns from 40 or more years ago bring several times what they sold for new as they are no longer in production. They are so simple, a spring and a compression chamber there is only so much that can be done with them. The pneumatic style that simply compress air and normally compete with spring guns are even harder to find for sell. Low end guns, Gamo or whatever are in abundance but no good for those interested in accurate rifles with excellent triggers. New high end springers run 600.00 to 900.00.
 
Now here is the opposite side with spring guns. The top end guns such as Air Arms TX200, Weihrauch 97 require for the most part getting on wait list to buy in recent years. Few come up used and are often at new or above new prices because they have been tuned or have custom stocks. The spring guns have remained the same for many years, most designs dating back 40 or more years. Some of the top end guns from 40 or more years ago bring several times what they sold for new as they are no longer in production. They are so simple, a spring and a compression chamber there is only so much that can be done with them. The pneumatic style that simply compress air and normally compete with spring guns are even harder to find for sell. Low end guns, Gamo or whatever are in abundance but no good for those interested in accurate rifles with excellent triggers. New high end springers run 600.00 to 900.00.
I'm only talking about PCPs
 
After using both springers and pcp, I’ll stick with the pcp. Much smoother to shoot and quick follow up shots.
To me springers feel and sound like something flying apart when being shot.
Loud and lots of vibrations.
 
After using both springers and pcp, I’ll stick with the pcp. Much smoother to shoot and quick follow up shots.
To me springers feel and sound like something flying apart when being shot.
Loud and lots of vibrations.
Very true. Pcp's are superior to springer's in almost every way, and PCP's have a place for a lot shooters. PCP's are great for close quarter pesting on a farm, dairies, cattle farms, or great for backyard plinking. PCP's are great value if you plan on not getting out. You will lose a lot of money if you believe the hype and believe the YouTuber's videos. YouTuber's will always tell you your one year old PCP is not good anymore to the latest and greatest model. My Taipan is a great PCP but because it's last two year's model, it's junk now. There will come a point of diminishing returns as you hit the $1K to $1500 mark. Some could argue diminishing returns will start at $600.
 
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Evidently you have never owned a well tuned Air Arms TX200 or Weihrauch HW 97.
I have not.
So your saying these brands of springers are smoother than a PCP? No vibrations and magazine feed?
I’ll stick with what I have. I’m not throwing any more money at springers. Admittedly I’ve only had $3-400 range spring guns. I couldn’t make myself spend $1000-$2000 on a super springer when what I have works. I can tag crows 80-100yds with my .25 FX.
I’m glad yours serves you well.
 
I bought a M-Rod Field and Target, retail about $700, discovered the problem of finding high pressure compressors and decided to get out of PCP's. Best offer was<$500, most <$400. I am going to go further into the rabbit hole and get a compressor. Tons of fun, just as accurate <75 yards as a 22rf. and very quite. I'll probably get a second PCP, something lighter than the Marauder.
 

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