bushing dies ?

[rebs]

Can you guys recommend a bushing die for 223 remington ? What bushing would I need and if you would please explain how to use them

 

[GLShooter]

I use Reddings. Bushing choice us based on loaded neck thickness of your brass. I'd check outvtge benchrest forums for more info. The bushing set up is very easy.

 

[JohnHenry]

Can you guys recommend a bushing die for 223 remington ? What bushing would I need and if you would please explain how to use them

 

[Bill Norris]

Can you guys recommend a bushing die for 223 remington ? What bushing would I need and if you would please explain how to use them

Redding or Wilson makes good bushing dies. U will need to determine what the loaded neck diameter of your brass is in order to get bushing size. Whatever your number is drop down 2 or 3 sizes and order those numbers to begin with. As U learn more about bushing dies you will begin to figure out how and why they are needed.

 

[mikecr]

Bolt gun or gas?

 

[Dave M.]

Can you guys recommend a bushing die for 223 remington ? What bushing would I need and if you would please explain how to use them

Redding type S or Wilson bushing dies, and short action customs for their bushings.

 

[209jones]

Have to know the loaded diameter and neck wall thickness, with the specific brand cases you are using, different brands of brass, will need different bushing sizes. Bushings aren't always perfect in sizing, a .300 may actually size your brass at something closer to .301 or .299 even, so be prepared for the possibility that it might not size to exactly what it's marked for, some of that is brass springback, some can be bushing itself. Sometimes brass has varying wall thickness depending on caliper/mic placement, it's showing out of round so to speak, on new brass. That's why you shud order more than one size bushing to start with

 

[rebs]

Bolt gun or gas?

Bolt gun

 

[rebs]

The neck of a loaded round is 0.250 with my Lapua match brass. So if I want .02 of neck tension I would order a 0.248 bushing, right ?

 

[Sandstorm]

Then you would need a bushing for .248 and .247 ( One of those two should work )

 

[Bc'z]

The neck of a loaded round is 0.250 with my Lapua match brass

I would get bushings .245 thru .249
Different bullet and powder combination may like different degrees of interference.

 

[JohnHenry]

The neck of a loaded round is 0.250 with my Lapua match brass. So if I want .02 of neck tension I would order a 0.248 bushing, right ?

Right. The Wilson bushings used to have a .0005 taper on the inside dia. You could reverse the bushing for an added .0005 neck tension. Don't know is Wilson still makes them that way. Wilson bushings will fit the Redding die.

 

[AlNyhus]

Can you guys recommend a bushing die for 223 remington ? What bushing would I need and if you would please explain how to use them

It's important to remember that bushing dies are for use with cases that have very consistent neck thickness variations...normally cases that have had the necks turned. At the very least, you should check unturned necks for consistency. In my testing, anything over .001 variation in thickness can actually be detrimental to accuracy when using bushing dies.

At times, using the expander with the Redding Type S bushing die can be beneficial.

Good shootin' -Al

 

[sqrlgtr]

All good info above but would like to add if you're not turning necks, you may be better off with a non-bushing type of die. Every time I've used a bushing die with unturned necks, I had a lot of run out and accuracy suffered. I have better luck with the Lee collet die and a Redding body i with unturned necks. Just my .02 worth and as always ymmv....

Al beat me to it

 

[mikecr]

I would never FL size necks.
And I have never had an issue with bushing dies, and mandrel neck expansion.
I don't know what you guys are doing wrong, or what I've always done right..

 

[Dave M.]

Have to know the loaded diameter and neck wall thickness, with the specific brand cases you are using, different brands of brass, will need different bushing sizes. Bushings aren't always perfect in sizing, a .300 may actually size your brass at something closer to .301 or .299 even, so be prepared for the possibility that it might not size to exactly what it's marked for, some of that is brass springback, some can be bushing itself. Sometimes brass has varying wall thickness depending on caliper/mic placement, it's showing out of round so to speak, on new brass. That's why you shud order more than one size bushing to start with

Exactly. Order what you think you will use and the two bushing up and two bushings down in size. This is safe. And certain manufacturers are better at making a bushing in the size stamped on the side of the bushing and others are not so good at it. Short Action Custom bushings are excellent and always seem to be spot on.
Dave

 

[rebs]

Exactly. Order what you think you will use and the two bushing up and two bushings down in size. This is safe. And certain manufacturers are better at making a bushing in the size stamped on the side of the bushing and others are not so good at it. Short Action Custom bushings are excellent and always seem to be spot on.
Dave

can short action bushings be used in a Redding bushing die

 

[nmkid]

Exactly. Order what you think you will use and the two bushing up and two bushings down in size. This is safe. And certain manufacturers are better at making a bushing in the size stamped on the side of the bushing and others are not so good at it. Short Action Custom bushings are excellent and always seem to be spot on.
Dave

I have several bushing dies and to date have never ordered the correct size bushings the first time. The supposed rule of thumb...You measure, say, .250 so you order .248 bushings for .002 tension has never worked for me. Therefore I own numerous amounts of bushings. But, that's how my luck runs.

 

[Bill Norris]

I have several bushing dies and to date have never ordered the correct size bushings the first time. The supposed rule of thumb...You measure, say, .250 so you order .248 bushings for .002 tension has never worked for me. Therefore I own numerous amounts of bushings. But, that's how my luck runs.

Lots of times the numbers don't represent the actual size with Redding. I swapped over to Wilson because of it.

 

[William Vogel]

I order .004 under the assembled cartridge neck diameter and that usually works perfectly. .001 spring back after the bushing and then mandrel. It’s an easy mandrel push.