Along with that, I doubt You are using a Barrel Nut ??If I have a point blank BR rifle that is a proven action and stock combo, the last thing in the world I would do is disrupt the harmonics of the glue in to change a barrel.
Along with that, I doubt You are using a Barrel Nut ??If I have a point blank BR rifle that is a proven action and stock combo, the last thing in the world I would do is disrupt the harmonics of the glue in to change a barrel.
I don’t think I would need to or want to use a Barrel Nut on one of those.You are correct. How about those receivers with a recessed face like the Stolle Teddy and Polar? Any way to use a nut with those?
No discussion needed thereWith a quality action like a Bat B I cannot think of a good reason to “not” use a shouldered barrel.
It’s just so easy, I can change barrels in a couple minutes.
Great way to infuriate others and spawn internet arguments!With a quality action like a Bat B I cannot think of a good reason to “not” use a shouldered barrel.
It’s just so easy, I can change barrels in a couple minutes.
I think we’re past that.Great way to infuriate others and spawn internet arguments!
Lol!
^^^^^^^^One issue that I fear on the barrel nut jobs is that the attention to detail may not be adhered to in dialing in the barrel as a hand crafted shoulder barrel would have.
My first hit at two miles was with a barrel nut.I think we’re past that.
To be perfectly honest I’ve shot small 1000 yard groups with both types.
I seriously doubt any decent smith is going to skimp out because it is for a barrel nut.One issue that I fear on the barrel nut jobs is that the attention to detail may not be adhered to in dialing in the barrel as a hand crafted shoulder barrel would have.
Not long ago, a video was posted on here in reference to the interior finish of a certain brand of barrel. The video camera inadvertently strayed into foreign waters (the throat area). It was quite a sight. The video got deleted quickly, as did the comments.One issue that I fear on the barrel nut jobs is that the attention to detail may not be adhered to in dialing in the barrel as a hand crafted shoulder barrel would have.
I agree. But you know we like testing. Theres still a lot of areas way in front of this for me, since I do not think we will come to the conclusion the nut is better. But I have been wrong before. Thats why I have not done it yet. I still have things to test that I do think will shrink aggs.With a quality action like a Bat B I cannot think of a good reason to “not” use a shouldered barrel.
It’s just so easy, I can change barrels in a couple minutes.
he difference beteween hunting and bench rest...0.5 sucks in BENCHRESTNot a gunsmith but a question for those of you who are.
If the barrel nut is so bad why are Savages on the most part so accurate?
Why do so many people claim 0.50 or better group size with them?
And why did most gun makers start using them? Not custom makers of course but factory makers?
Disclaimer I had my two bench guns switched over to shouldered but they did shoot good with nuts, I just wanted to squeeze that little bit more out of them.
I agree. But you know we like testing. Theres still a lot of areas way in front of this for me, since I do not think we will come to the conclusion the nut is better. But I have been wrong before. Thats why I have not done it yet. I still have things to test that I do think will shrink aggs.
My 0.5 was in reference to most of the Savage shooters here, they are mostly hunters or plinkers, not competitors, and a .5 group is plenty good enough for a factory gun.t
he difference beteween hunting and bench rest...0.5 sucks in BENCHREST
savages as accurate rifles occur in their single shot solid bottom actions.
even these are not short range br accurate. they do okay in fclass because the target is LARGE
Why would we push something that isnt better?Why does it have to be better all of a sudden?
I mean this whole thing is just bizarre to watch.
Only speaking for myself, I dont like the nut. I never said it would shoot better or worse. I dont like it from an engineering point or and end user point. The best thing for a beginner is a shoulder. They cant mess than up and you need less tools for a barrel swap = cheaper. Far simpler job for the beginner. I dont think its a short cut. I guess its less work since you dont need to locate and machine a shoulder but I wouldnt call it a short cut. But since the question is being asked and this thread is back up, if people want to know if theres a difference the only way to know is get the best shooters you can to test it using all the same components including the barrel. The only reason for the test would be to see if one way was better. If you didnt care if one was better you would never test anything.Why does it have to be better all of a sudden?
I mean this whole thing is very weird. The thread is talking about the disadvantages. The overall elitism in this forum is always talking about how nut barrels are inferior and only for beginners and for people who take shortcuts, but now the test must show that the nut is superior?
I mean this whole thing is just bizarre to watch.
Just so this isn't missed, if @Alex Wheeler says he will do the barrel work, and if @tom or @GlennK says they will shoot it; this will be the ultimate long range test.
Alex is one of the premier LRBR rifle builders, Tom is the 2022 IBS 1000 yd Shooter of the Year, and Glenn holds the IBS 1000 yd heavy gun record--2.6xx" for 10 shots.
Yes, it will only be one data point but it will be a beret strong one.
I don't know why @urbanrifleman is so opposed. There is no doubt that the nut barrel--chambered by Alex and shot by Tom or Glenn, will shoot well--probably better than anyone has ever shot one. To the guys buying nut barrels, they won't care if the shouldered rifle shoots .1 MOA smaller (if it does). They'll just be excited that a barrel that can afford to buy and install themselves has potential to shoot so well.