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Nammo Vihtavuori Starts Primer Production in Finland

Juppe12

Well, now it is official what I have been waiting and hoping. Nammo Vihtavuori starts primer production here in Finland!
Unfortunately I did not find english version, but I guess that it will be available soon. Here is bulletin from finnish media.
https://metsastysjakalastus.fi/namm...-euron-investointi/?shared=14663-56a3fa06-500

Edit: As promised short translation for those who had not learned finnish language jet ;)

From finnish hunting magazine, Metsästys ja Kalastus

Nammo starts primer production in VIhtavuori site - 33 million euro investment

Nammo Vihtavuori plant celebrates its 100 year anniversary today 24.8.2022

After factory tour real news are heard, Nammo Group chairman of the board, mr Morten Brandtzaeg, announces that primer factory is being build to Vihtavuori site. Investment is about 33 million euros tells Nammo Vihtavuori COO mr Ilkka Heikkilä. There will be 40-50 employees working in primer factory when ready.

Planning and recruitment for new factory is allready happening. Production will start at 2025 if everything goes as planned. Factory capacity at beginning should be 400000000 primers annually.

Nammo has invested about 60 million euros to Vihtavuori plant for next 5 years period, primer factory included, tells mr Heikkilä.

Primers will be sold sold to military, ammo factories and reloaders. As Nammo reloading components are valued in high quality, Nammo is looking forward to product high quality primers.
 
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Japanese falls into that category as well. There are only a few in the world. But now
Further complicate it with a written language based on pictographs instead of an alphabet. And unlike the inventors of the pictographs, the Chinese that only have Chinese pronunciations for a character, they use both their own pronunciation and that of the Chinese to boot.

M-61 said:
It sure is. No real relation to any other language
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Thanks @Juppe12 for letting us know about the new production.
 
I followed the link and eventually got to a page that was a brief article about the new factory. I used Google Translate to go from Finnish to English but there was a slight glitch. The translation proclaimed that they are opening a new "tedy bear" factory, and there was no mention of primers. Given the cost of the facility, and the number of employees, either there is a lot more demand for teddy bears than I would have thought or Google Translate needs a bit of tuning.
 
mongo chicago said:
Can't be any harder than Russian.
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Below one expert's opinion
Many Finns speak Russian fewer Russians speak Finnish fwiw
tougher are mandarin and Cantonese as they are so tonal

I started learning Finnish for the same reason I picked up Irish: because I read it was difficult. The fourteen or fifteen cases, the long words, the impossible pronunciation, the weird changes words undergo, blah blah. What I discovered was this:
  • The most logical and consistent spelling system I have seen in any language so far. The only thing that can trip you up is consonant lengthening after certain suffixes that used to have a final -k ages ago, and that’s far from an impediment when it comes to making yourself understood.
  • Pronunciation is only hard as long as you haven’t got used to the long sounds that are all over the place as well as the consistent initial stress. The diphthongs yö and öy also gave me trouble at first; for people whose native language has no rounded front vowels, the going will be a little harder as well. But apart from that? No palatalisation, no ejectives, tones, coarticulations, clicks, aspiration distinction, pitch accent and what have you. Finnish phonology is really nothing too outlandish. You don’t even have to pay attention to voicing!
  • Gender, a killer feature of almost all things Indo-European that entails hours upon hours of rote memorisation for every single damn language you learn because it’s almost completely fucking arbitrary. Yeah. Finnish doesn’t have that. At all. No declension weirdness dependent on gender, no verb agreement because of gender, no exceptions for specific nouns (yeah, right, Irish, girls are masculine, oh, German, your girls are neuter? But the pronoun you use for them is feminine still? Sod off.). There is a single set of endings for all nouns.
  • Declension, to pick up where I left off. Indo-european languages tend to have several, and what declension a noun belongs to can be quite arbitrary as well. The endings vary between declensions; you may have to memorise multiple sets of them. Finnish? Gives you the wonderful astevaihtelu which is a bunch of recipes on how to mangle the root of a word, makes a few slightly crazy rules about how inflectional stems are formed and leaves you be. The inessive case always ends in -ssa, no matter whether we’re talking about houses, cars, trees, people, galaxies, insects or yo’ momma. The plural is a tiny, rather well-behaved -i- that’s also the same everywhere (okay, it’s a little nasty at times - yö, öissä etc. but meh).
  • The cases are far less intimidating that everyone makes them out to be. In many Indo-European languages you end up memorizing not only prepositions but also the case(s) they govern. I recently spent a good half of an hour explaining to a friend why German auf can take either the accusative or dative and what the implications are. Finnish doesn’t bother with this kind of shit; their local expressions are cases that they stick onto their nouns, and that’s it. And if those ain’t enough, there are some postpositions that almost to the last man take the genitive, only the genitive and nothing but the genitive. The few prepositions and partitve-governing postpositions are statistical anomalies.
  • Let’s end this with the one topic that I’ve always found to be genuinely hard in Finnish (me and scores of other learners). The partitive case. This bastard injects into this lovely language what I can only explain by the Finn’s desire to have some bullshit arbitrariness and fuck-you-foreigner mechanism in their language. Probably got it from prolonged exposure to all the Indo-European nonsense around them. There are rules for this case, but they are complicated, interwoven with idioms and very much a matter of gut feeling. The partitive is where Finnish, finally, just goes like: “no niin, that’s just how it is. Deal with it.” Guess I can’t fault them for wanting to have a little fun once, after presenting to the world a language that is so wonderfully accommodating in almost all other fields. I’ll grant you that one, Suomi.
That’s my take on Finnish. Many things have been simplified or glossed over - of course, all languages are hard, especially if you want to be fluent. building vocabulary in Finnish can, as others have said, be quite hard because your mother tongue is of little help there (unless you’re Estonian and maybe Sámi), but this is mititgated by very transparent and powerful derivational and compositional morphology that lets you guess at the meaning of words from their parts quite easily - unlike English, which has borrowed so much from everyone else that compulsive hoarding doesn’t even begin to describe it.
 
Juppe12 said:
Well, now it is official what I have been waiting and hoping. Nammo Vihtavuori starts primer production here in Finland!
Unfortunately I did not find english version, but I guess that it will be available soon. Here is bulletin from finnish media.
https://metsastysjakalastus.fi/namm...-euron-investointi/?shared=14663-56a3fa06-500

investment is 33m€, 40-50 people working. And most important, primers will be available also to reloaders.
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Makes perfect sense to me. Primers are the most restricting element of reloading right now. It is hard to sell powder, brass, and bullets when there are no primers (or they cost 10 to 16 cents each). Getting some primers on the market will pull through the rest of their products.
 
fx77 said:
Below one expert's opinion
Many Finns speak Russian fewer Russians speak Finnish fwiw
tougher are mandarin and Cantonese as they are so tonal

I started learning Finnish for the same reason I picked up Irish: because I read it was difficult. The fourteen or fifteen cases, the long words, the impossible pronunciation, the weird changes words undergo, blah blah. What I discovered was this:
  • The most logical and consistent spelling system I have seen in any language so far. The only thing that can trip you up is consonant lengthening after certain suffixes that used to have a final -k ages ago, and that’s far from an impediment when it comes to making yourself understood.
  • Pronunciation is only hard as long as you haven’t got used to the long sounds that are all over the place as well as the consistent initial stress. The diphthongs yö and öy also gave me trouble at first; for people whose native language has no rounded front vowels, the going will be a little harder as well. But apart from that? No palatalisation, no ejectives, tones, coarticulations, clicks, aspiration distinction, pitch accent and what have you. Finnish phonology is really nothing too outlandish. You don’t even have to pay attention to voicing!
  • Gender, a killer feature of almost all things Indo-European that entails hours upon hours of rote memorisation for every single damn language you learn because it’s almost completely fucking arbitrary. Yeah. Finnish doesn’t have that. At all. No declension weirdness dependent on gender, no verb agreement because of gender, no exceptions for specific nouns (yeah, right, Irish, girls are masculine, oh, German, your girls are neuter? But the pronoun you use for them is feminine still? Sod off.). There is a single set of endings for all nouns.
  • Declension, to pick up where I left off. Indo-european languages tend to have several, and what declension a noun belongs to can be quite arbitrary as well. The endings vary between declensions; you may have to memorise multiple sets of them. Finnish? Gives you the wonderful astevaihtelu which is a bunch of recipes on how to mangle the root of a word, makes a few slightly crazy rules about how inflectional stems are formed and leaves you be. The inessive case always ends in -ssa, no matter whether we’re talking about houses, cars, trees, people, galaxies, insects or yo’ momma. The plural is a tiny, rather well-behaved -i- that’s also the same everywhere (okay, it’s a little nasty at times - yö, öissä etc. but meh).
  • The cases are far less intimidating that everyone makes them out to be. In many Indo-European languages you end up memorizing not only prepositions but also the case(s) they govern. I recently spent a good half of an hour explaining to a friend why German auf can take either the accusative or dative and what the implications are. Finnish doesn’t bother with this kind of shit; their local expressions are cases that they stick onto their nouns, and that’s it. And if those ain’t enough, there are some postpositions that almost to the last man take the genitive, only the genitive and nothing but the genitive. The few prepositions and partitve-governing postpositions are statistical anomalies.
  • Let’s end this with the one topic that I’ve always found to be genuinely hard in Finnish (me and scores of other learners). The partitive case. This bastard injects into this lovely language what I can only explain by the Finn’s desire to have some bullshit arbitrariness and fuck-you-foreigner mechanism in their language. Probably got it from prolonged exposure to all the Indo-European nonsense around them. There are rules for this case, but they are complicated, interwoven with idioms and very much a matter of gut feeling. The partitive is where Finnish, finally, just goes like: “no niin, that’s just how it is. Deal with it.” Guess I can’t fault them for wanting to have a little fun once, after presenting to the world a language that is so wonderfully accommodating in almost all other fields. I’ll grant you that one, Suomi.
That’s my take on Finnish. Many things have been simplified or glossed over - of course, all languages are hard, especially if you want to be fluent. building vocabulary in Finnish can, as others have said, be quite hard because your mother tongue is of little help there (unless you’re Estonian and maybe Sámi), but this is mititgated by very transparent and powerful derivational and compositional morphology that lets you guess at the meaning of words from their parts quite easily - unlike English, which has borrowed so much from everyone else that compulsive hoarding doesn’t even begin to describe it.
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All of that is completely beyond my comprehension. What I know is that back 40+ years ago while I was pretty far North in Minnesota coyote hunting, and as we drive through a small village, the local Norsky I was riding with described the inhabitants of the village. They were obviously of Finnish descent and the Norsky says in his best way up Nort brogue, " them Finn's are a clannish bunch." I can still here him say it like it was yesterday.
 
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