Weight sorting

[MUP]

This is why I was saying wind flags may be your best friend.

I just shot both these targets about 30 minutes ago - 50 yds, CCI S/V, Tikka T1x,

I shot the bottom target first - just a light flitting of the tails of the flags (surveyors tape)

I shot the top target next and if you notice it is now slightly more left because I had picked up a very slight left running breeze On the 3rd shot the flag jumped out about 45 degrees which equates to about a 5-6 mph breeze and it pushed the shot out almost a half-inch. If I hadn't had the flags I would not have known what caused it to go out that far and would have called it a flyer.

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Here's my last match target. To me it looks like the wind was my biggest factor with mostly R to L drift?

 

[MUP]

On #16 I saw the bad hit immediately, came off the gun and looked at the intermediate flag and it was horizontal right to left. Yep, wind is my hurdle to overcome on a more consistent basis I believe.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

On #16 I saw the bad hit immediately, came off the gun and looked at the intermediate flag and it was horizontal right to left. Yep, wind is my hurdle to overcome on a more consistent basis I believe.

ideally you should be watching your flags when you shoot and not looking at the target through the scope.

Lee

 

[MUP]

ideally you should be watching your flags when you shoot and not looking at the target through the scope.

Lee

Well, in my defense, I'm shooting off a bipod and rear bag. I haven't perfected the art of being able to hold steady on target and raise my head to watch the flags yet. But I'm learning.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Well, in my defense, I'm shooting off a bipod and rear bag. I haven't perfected the art of being able to hold steady on target and raise my head to watch the flags yet. But I'm learning.

I wasn't criticizing your shooting just saying ideally you watch your flags as you shoot. since you shoot off a bipod you could shoot with both eyes open if you are not doing this already. it does put more strain on the eyes.

Lee

 

[MUP]

I wasn't criticizing your shooting just saying ideally you watch your flags as you shoot. since you shoot off a bipod you could shoot with both eyes open if you are not doing this already. it does put more strain on the eyes.

Lee

I didn't take any offense, I am here to learn what I can . I'm also left eye dominant (right hand shooter) and really can't see the cross hairs if I have both eyes open. That said, I have been trying to watch the flags and conditions, but I'm not that good at it, yet, as I get "in the zone" and will fire a shot, or two, consecutively without checking flags. I'm working on it tho.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

I didn't take any offense, I am here to learn what I can . I'm also left eye dominant (right hand shooter) and really can't see the cross hairs if I have both eyes open. That said, I have been trying to watch the flags and conditions, but I'm not that good at it, yet, as I get "in the zone" and will fire a shot, or two, consecutively without checking flags. I'm working on it tho.

I am also left eye dominate too but think about this once you have your hold on the target you don’t need to be fully focused on the CH
It takes practice but can be done

Lee

 

[MUP]

I am also left eye dominate too but think about this once you have your hold on the target you don’t need to be fully focused on the CH
It takes practice but can be done

Lee

I don't doubt it at all, I'm just not quite there yet myself. I basically look and aim, and if I feel any gust I'll look again, most times that is. Also I'm just going from a single flag posted at the match and off to my right side. I may need to invest in some surveyor's tape of my own

 

[Gizmo60]

13 rds to the left, 4 to the right, looks like R to L wind to me.

The wind which causes the most damage is the wind closest to the muzzle (first 10 yds), any error/deflection of the rd here will get larger during the last 40yds of travel.

Were you aiming centre of tgt for each shot or holding off for the wind?

You can forget the wind and just shoot, then it’s the luck of the draw as they say or wait the wind out for calm conditions but this is not normally possible during a 20 minute competition. A better option is to take one wind condition and practice shooting in it by holding off, do the same again for other conditions, there are no shortcuts, its practice, practice and more practice.

Just my tuppence worth.

 

[MUP]

I was attempting to wait for calm to light wind, aiming center each time

 

[MUP]

I shot a few groups today with Center X at 50 too. Slight wind from R to L at times. Aiming center dot each time.

 

[dutch14]

If you have trees available, watching the ends move can be a guide or watching the grass if it's not mowed compleatly off both work best if done through the scope. But, like you I have a shortage of flags and a shortage of wind reading skills.

 

[MUP]

If you have trees available, watching the ends move can be a guide or watching the grass if it's not mowed compleatly off both work best if done through the scope. But, like you I have a shortage of flags and a shortage of wind reading skills.

There are trees at my practice range, and some tall grass I try to watch. Yesterday was light, but I still tried to wait for totally calm conditions, but even at that there was a very slight drift from R to L. It's fun trying to figure it out.

 

[ttfreestyle]

Wind messes with everyone, I lost a shot left on top center and top right due to missing a letoff or this woulda been a decent lot testing target.

 

[MUP]

I've got to get to where I can shoot with wind, and not wait on conditions to let up. Time isn't a big factor in these small matches as you know, but if time were more tight I'd be up the creek for sure LOL

 

[MUP]

And I know how, practice practice practice, and more practice

 

[boltman13]

I have given up on weighting or measuring rim thickness on match grade 22LR, such as 10X, R-50, Midas+ or Center X. They seem to have very low spreads of +/- 0.1-.2 grains. Assuming the brass -primer is the most consistent component the variation in powder or bullet is the most likely offender. At 50 yards does this show up on paper, given all other factors are not at fault. I doubt it. The scale used to measure weight could also account for some of that spread as well. Going down to 0.02 grains might show more variation but keeping the rounds segragated would drive me crazy. If you can learn to have absolutely consistent bag riding and wind reading which takes time and practice together with a very accurate rifle you have done all you can to shoot the best score you can in my opinion. The one thing all this measuring does is remove the rare really bad round that even the best manufacturing may produce. I was hammering an IBS BR-50 target once with nothing but 10's and X's until the 23 target when WTF an 8. Did I miss a wind call? A mistake with the bags, or what. My ego leads me to believe out of all the thousands of RWS R-50 I have fired in this rifle I finally found the one bad round they made. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I have shot several BR-50 target 250 scores and yet that one 248 still bothers me, but not enough to resume doing all that measuring.

 

[VLNBYR]

One sighter is all the practice you need to tell you where you need to hold for a wind condition.

 

[dutch14]

If you are going to weight sort 22 rimfire don't forget to allow for the wax.