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Tubb Nose Ring cutter and varmint expansion?

Has anyone on here actually purchased this tool and used match bullets for high volume varmint shooting? It sounded like there were several interested, till the actual price was released...myself included. I remain intrigued. After my Bore Rider reamer arrives, if I can't get the 87 Vmax to perform in my Dasher as I'd like, using the Nose Ring Cutter with Berger 88 VLDs was my intended back-up option. I fired a .095" 100 yard group with those things...was either 4 or 5 shot group. So I know they fly...but I also tried to open some up with micro drill bit, and based on that unsuccessful experience, I'd venture to guess you couldn't find a less frangible bullet. But with a deep cut from the nose ring cutter, I'm wondering how frangible they would become. Of course, I'd have to think twice (maybe 3x) on this, given the cost of the unit, lol.

So, has anybody purchased and used the tool for this purpose? If so, does it bring bullet frangibility into the same zone as plastic tipped bullets?
 
Has anyone on here actually purchased this tool and used match bullets for high volume varmint shooting? It sounded like there were several interested, till the actual price was released...myself included. I remain intrigued. After my Bore Rider reamer arrives, if I can't get the 87 Vmax to perform in my Dasher as I'd like, using the Nose Ring Cutter with Berger 88 VLDs was my intended back-up option. I fired a .095" 100 yard group with those things...was either 4 or 5 shot group. So I know they fly...but I also tried to open some up with micro drill bit, and based on that unsuccessful experience, I'd venture to guess you couldn't find a less frangible bullet. But with a deep cut from the nose ring cutter, I'm wondering how frangible they would become. Of course, I'd have to think twice (maybe 3x) on this, given the cost of the unit, lol.

So, has anybody purchased and used the tool for this purpose? If so, does it bring bullet frangibility into the same zone as plastic tipped bullets?

I was going to test this very thing as my friend has a nose ring cutter.

I shot with Tubb when we cut the ring into the DTAC and did make it blow up better.

I am not sure what it will do, but I was thinking the 88 Berger is the perfect test.
 
Maybe @powderbrake could tell us how they blow up on pdogs.
I already did. They don't blow up! And I'm serious...I've opened up many 103 and 105gn match bullets with small drill bits before...and never have I encountered a jacket as tough as these 88 Bergers...I'm sure they do the job, but it won't be spectacular.
 
Hey if you like to experiment - that's fine - go for it.

But with the wide range of outstanding commercial varmint bullets, I don't know why anyone would want to fool around doing something like that. I guess I'm just too practical to a fault. :(:(:(
Cause I shot a zero with them (just barely)! And sometimes we just need to do stupid, and costly stuff, to remind us that simple is good...not sure how many times I've said that to myself. But you're right...I'm going to work hard to make the 87 Vmax work, in fact, I'm counting on it as I already stocked up on them from Urbanrifleman site...as long as I get .3MOA or better, out to middle-long distances, that's what I'll be going with.
 
Hey if you like to experiment - that's fine - go for it.

But with the wide range of outstanding commercial varmint bullets, I don't know why anyone would want to fool around doing something like that. I guess I'm just too practical to a fault. :(:(:(

Cutting a nose ring takes about 2 seconds.

If you have the tool that is...

When I shot with Tubb he was cutting them into 77 SMK match bullets while sitting in the Polaris.
 
Cause I shot a zero with them (just barely)! And sometimes we just need to do stupid, and costly stuff, to remind us that simple is good...not sure how many times I've said that to myself. But you're right...I'm going to work hard to make the 87 Vmax work, in fact, I'm counting on it as I already stocked up on them from Urbanrifleman site...as long as I get .3MOA or better, out to middle-long distances, that's what I'll be going with.

If the nose ring works, the Berger 88 will be the dominant varmint bullet of it's class.

Btw I shot the 80 Bergers at 3550 and they practically hand grenaded pdogs.
 
Has anyone on here actually purchased this tool and used match bullets for high volume varmint shooting?

You can't actually purchase this since it is Licensed by David's company for use. Read below:

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NOSERING® Tool Body Terms and Conditions​


NoseRing® TECHNOLOGY END USER LICENSE SUMMARY




This isn’t a sale of goods, but is instead sale of a License to use a NoseRing® Tool which you may retain and use, so long as you (or your successor) continue to abide by the terms of this License. It might be best to think of this as a tool rental having what we hope is a Very long term. SUPERIOR SHOOTING SYSTEMS, INC. (hereinafter “LICENSOR”) has intellectual property rights including Patent rights on the NoseRing® Tool and Trademark rights on the mark NoseRing®. You, the License Buyer (“LICENSEE”) upon completion of the Agreement and License Purchase transaction will receive one NoseRing® Tool to be used solely for private non-commercial use and you (said LICENSEE and heirs or successors) may retain possession of and use that licensed NoseRing® Tool for as long as this Agreement’s Conditions are met (e.g., so you, as LICENSEE, may keep and use the tool to treat bullets for your own non-commercial use, indefinitely).





You, as a License Buyer (“LICENSEE”) are licensed to use the NoseRing® Tool to make NoseRing® enhanced projectiles (i.e., “Licensed Products”) solely for private non-commercial use, and at your (LICENSEE’s) risk and expense. In the event a Licensed NoseRing® Tool requires repair or replacement, you (LICENSEE) shall notify LICENSOR and arrange to return the Licensed NoseRing® Tool for repair or replacement.





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Hey if you like to experiment - that's fine - go for it.

But with the wide range of outstanding commercial varmint bullets, I don't know why anyone would want to fool around doing something like that. I guess I'm just too practical to a fault. :(:(:(
I'm still waiting for my chamber to be modified in order to fit the fatter 87 Vmax...but I don't know of any other varmint bullets in that class/range. For sure I would prefer some sort of plastic tip for convenience....so fingers crossed the 87 delivered for me. Then I guess there's the Sierra 85 HPBT...though BC is lacking. Not sure what else...maybe tipped matchkings.
 
I'm still waiting for my chamber to be modified in order to fit the fatter 87 Vmax...but I don't know of any other varmint bullets in that class/range. For sure I would prefer some sort of plastic tip for convenience....so fingers crossed the 87 delivered for me. Then I guess there's the Sierra 85 HPBT...though BC is lacking. Not sure what else...maybe tipped matchkings.

I cannot imagine that the BC of the 85 BTHP is much different from the 87 Vmax. They look nearly identical.

BTW I have shot tennis ball sized groups as 600 with the 85 BTHP. It is by far one of the 85ish varmint bullets I have tested at long range.
 
I cannot imagine that the BC of the 85 BTHP is much different from the 87 Vmax. They look nearly identical.

BTW I have shot tennis ball sized groups as 600 with the 85 BTHP. It is by far one of the 85ish varmint bullets I have tested at long range.

Strelok Pro lists a G1 BC for 87 Vmax as 0.400 and the 85 HPBT as 0.282 fwiw.
 
I find that very hard to believe. You lay two of them on the table and they look nearly identical except for the tip.

I don’t know, but I’ve used strelok calculations to get on paper out to 1000 yards and it’s typically very close.
 
The 87 Vmax has a G7 close to .2, think it was 0.192 or there about when I used to shoot them (that should be around 0.392ish G1 for the people that still use that). That's a decent difference between Sierras claimed .311 G1 and the Vmax
 
I find that very hard to believe. You lay two of them on the table and they look nearly identical except for the tip.
Both are great varmint bullets that shoot and perform . The difference shows up in the field & the range. And it's quite measurable.

I run a 1-12 243 Schneider barrel and a 1-10 6 Dasher Hart barrel. Both were built by Dan Dowling. The 243 loved the Sierra and the Dasher loved the vmax. The velocity sweet spot on both was 3200 (3204 & 3206). The vamx was a far, far better choice on long range pasture rats (400-800 yds), especially when shooting in the wind.

I really like both bullets, but field experience has shown the vmax to be a better bullet for assistng pasture rats on their journey.
Al
 

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