Would you shoot these brass

[hoz53]

Ive had dented shoulders once in awhile for a long time. I know its generally caused by to much lube on the shoulder. Ive shot some of these in the past and the dents always have been blown out with no apparent harm to the case and no holes or splits in the cases.
these i will scrap as they are just mixed 223 range brass. I dont have any trouble sizing brass without dents but ive just always wondered if i get one how it changes the case compared to cases that never had a dent. these days i scrap even lapua if i get a shoulder dent when sizing.

EDIT::: I see by answers to this thread that i didnt explain myself in the original posting very well. Im sorry about that and i have changed the original to try to do this. Thanks to all who have answered.

 

[Mike F H]

Ive had dented shoulders once in awhile for a long time. I know its caused by to much lube on the shoulder.
I have shot these though and the dents are blown out and you couldnt even tell they were there. if i was a competitor i wouldnt shoot these in competition but these are just 223 range brass used for blasting fodder. I have never had one of these cause a hole in the case when fired.
it just seems like there would be an effect to the brass from these dents ??View attachment 1334022

To put it bluntly,that is disgraceful,ease up on the case lube,after you lube the case wipe the neck and shoulder before sizing.Most likely wiping the die out before the next use would help.With a bit of care,cases can be sized without all those dents.At least you have lubricated the case and shouldn’t get stuck cases in the die.I hope I haven’t offended you greatly,but sometimes it has to be said.
I am sure you will do better in the future.

 

[mikeinct]

As long as they chamber, 99% certain they will be safe with no serious effects. The dent crease may still be visable. HOZ when that happens STOP n CLEAN the FL die.

 

[HardwoodPro]

Looks like a good candidate for 300blk

 

[JSH]

I have had the same thing happen, usually while forming wildcat brass. We all know about lube dents. I would rather dent a case than ruin (premium brass)it by ripping the rim off and having a total loss. If it was premium brass I would say use it and it should come out.

Range brass, why put a .10 primer, .35 powder, .40 bullet in a .02 case? Then it may or may not shoot well. What did ya save.

 

[jdague12]

You said that when you shoot these, the dents are blown out. How many times are you doing this per case? Someone jump in and correct me if I’m overthinking this, but wouldn’t that be weakening the brass in that particular spot? I’m thinking about when you bend a metal hanger back and forth, eventually the molecular structure of the metal changes and it breaks. Like JSH said, it’s cheap brass, why gamble?

 

[NorCalMikie]

Choot em!!

 

[Gary in MD]

The only effort that I would put into that brass would be to walk them over to the trash can. Maybe to the recycle center if I had a bucket full….
YMMV
Gary

 

[SKWERLZ]

Choot em!!

This!

 

[NorCalMikie]

The only effort that I would put into that brass would be to walk them over to the trash can.

So, every dented piece of YOUR brass gets the deep 6? Remind me again where you shoot so I can clean up after you.

 

[Gary in MD]

So, every dented piece of YOUR brass gets the deep 6? Remind me again where you shoot so I can clean up after you.

LOL
Sure except that I don’t usually dent my brass.
Although I do have a piece of 223AI that’s stuck in the die right now, you can have that one if you come over and can get it out. LOL
Gary

 

[Liven The Dream]

Well Products are hard to come by at this time ??
As stated less lube ( or different Brand ). Clean your Die check for Vent Hole in Die ? Un-Plug it.
You could use them for test loads till you get on track.

 

[gdbleb]

Dumb question. Are those dents roughly the size of the wad of excessive lube? Or are they the result of the lube and trapped air? I've never had this problem so just curious.

 

[jdague12]

I’m finding .223 brass quite frequently at the range these day. At 25yd pistol range yesterday and had some kids rapid firing on the 10yd. Went over after they left and they never bothered to clean up their brass. A boatload of Ammo Inc. 9mm brass AND few hundred .45ACP brass. I’ll pick up .45ACP all day long.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

I have not had lube dents like that either, I run a stick on pad on my AR brass defector. I clean sizing die with Hornady One Shot GUN CLEANER/LUBE. Recycle brass, Biden is using executive action to shut down mining.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Just a tip.
use imperial sizing wax and your problem will be greatly reduced.

 

[243winxb]

This is more of a problem, that needs fixing. But only if its your AR doing it?

 

[Bill K]

Are those dents caused by too much lube, as you say, during sizing or are they caused by firing them in a AR and they hit the reciever on ejection ? This can occur on AR's, which maybe you are shooting.

 

[dellet]

Since you’ve already fired them and the question seems more about long term use....

Anytime you dent metal, it stretches. There will be a thin spot that will eventually fail, the question is how thin and when. The dents that are on the part of the shoulder that will keep getting pushed back and forth, will probably split before the necks do, if you never anneal.

The one on the far right, probably would have gone in the trash. The crease on the body shoulder junction would be a candidate for pulling the neck and shoulder off. Even used as blasting ammo, it would be the most likely one to be left behind in the chamber and ruin your day.

Since you’ve already shot them, it’s too late, but it would have been interesting to mark them and see how long they last, and if they did fail there.

Depends on how hard to get the brass is, or how much work to form. Dents in the shoulder of 218 Bee brass are not un common, the brass is not. I would be more likely to, and have used them.

The other thing to consider is that since they have been dented, they may be more likely to dent again in the same place when sizing.

Sounds like you have already delegated them to a use where quantity is more important than quality. Probably a good use. Just be mindful of potential radial splits that might leave something behind in the chamber.

 

[K22]

No