TackDriver wind reading

[JoeDuke]

Since wind reading was mentioned on the big article by Bart, I thought I would start a thread and ask some questions here.
OK, for Bart, Jim Cline, Jackie, and anyone else that wants to chime in.

When you sit down at the bench at Orangeburg, SC to get ready to shoot a target at the Tackdriver, what do you look for? Which flag might be more important that others, etc.? How do you determine when to start? What tells you to hold up?
Give us some insight into your experience at this range. Tell us how you get started on any given target.
Thanks for your input.

Joe

 

[Dusty Stevens]

While theyre changing targets and everybody is setting up their rests watch for a wind pattern that stays long enough to finish your target and wait for it to show up during your match. Oh and bring your 20’+ windflags with guy wires and strings. You probably seen those down there and they were making a big difference on target

 

[JoeDuke]

Yes. At the first tackdriver, the flags in front of me were not guyed but were just waving everywhere. I had noticed another bench had them guyed. So, since you only have to hit me three or four times to get my attention, I had ours guyed down this past year.
Your comment about watching the flags for the wind pattern is spot on. Are there any tips specific to Orangeburg other than tall flags?

 

[jcline]

Yes. At the first tackdriver, the flags in front of me were not guyed but were just waving everywhere. I had noticed another bench had them guyed. So, since you only have to hit me three or four times to get my attention, I had ours guyed down this past year.
Your comment about watching the flags for the wind pattern is spot on. Are there any tips specific to Orangeburg other than tall flags?

Pray hard and often!

 

[jcline]

Yes. At the first tackdriver, the flags in front of me were not guyed but were just waving everywhere. I had noticed another bench had them guyed. So, since you only have to hit me three or four times to get my attention, I had ours guyed down this past year.
Your comment about watching the flags for the wind pattern is spot on. Are there any tips specific to Orangeburg other than tall flags?

When you figure out Orangeburg, SC, you can go WIN anywhere in the NATION!

 

[JoeDuke]

When you figure out Orangeburg, SC, you can go WIN anywhere in the NATION!

I have shot at a number of different ranges where folks hold this same opinion. I have decided they are all correct!
On a serious note, most ranges have some quirk or call it a feature that creates that particular range's individual challenge. About the only way to learn em is to shoot em.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I have shot at a number of different ranges where folks hold this same opinion. I have decided they are all correct!
On a serious note, most ranges have some quirk or call it a feature that creates that particular range's individual challenge. About the only way to learn em is to shoot em.

Keep a close eye out past 200. Start right now on making a reliable tall flag setup

 

[JMayo]

I believe there are 2 major cross winds at mid C. One going L to R at 150 and one going R to L at 250. Both of those measurements are of the top of my head. I think 100 - 200 flags tell the biggest part. The far ones read up, down and gust.
Also during season.

COME NOVEMBER....
THINGS GET REALY CRaZy !
( I think that's part of the plan)

2 TD's ago wind was blowing straight in our face. Sun towels slapping the rafters and fraying the hims. ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVED ! The field was flipped Sunday
Last year was much better wind wise but still only the strong survived ...

Mental/stress is allot of the TD game. If you can't keep your chit together it'll bite you. It maybe it's just me.

PS. What doest it mean when all the sail tails suspend STRAIGHT UP while the flag goes in circles ?! Lol !

 

[jimmymac]

Thanks for the info on pole height. How many 20 footers are we talking about? I have nothing that goes that high.

 

[DaveTooley]

DON"T SHOOT THE ORANGE

 

[rogina]

I believe there are 2 major cross winds at mid C. One going L to R at 150 and one going R to L at 250. Both of those measurements are of the top of my head. I think 100 - 200 flags tell the biggest part. The far ones read up, down and gust.
Also during season.

COME NOVEMBER....
THINGS GET REALY CRaZy !
( I think that's part of the plan)

2 TD's ago wind was blowing straight in our face. Sun towels slapping the rafters and fraying the hims. ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVED ! The field was flipped Sunday
Last year was much better wind wise but still only the strong survived ...

Mental/stress is allot of the TD game. If you can't keep your chit together it'll bite you. It maybe it's just me.

PS. What doest it mean when all the sail tails suspend STRAIGHT UP while the flag goes in circles ?! Lol !

Don't shoot.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

DON"T SHOOT THE ORANGE

I seen some goofy flags out there last tack driver that were exactly opposite colors from every other flag on the range. Glad they wasnt too close to my lane

 

[JoeDuke]

I seen some goofy flags out there last tack driver that were exactly opposite colors from every other flag on the range. Glad they wasnt too close to my lane

Yep. There is always “that guy”. My flags are Standard Hensley flags. It is helpful if all the flags are alike. You can glance across the field and see if anything different is coming your way.

 

[jimmymac]

Thanks for the info on pole height. How many 20 footers are we talking about? I have nothing that goes that high.

Anyone?

 

[JMayo]

Anyone?

2 capable of 15 - 25 will work.
Terry got some 3" real flag poles like you put in your yard they were totally still. Others have the stainless steel poles.
I converted a couple of golf ball retrievers.
Last year's wasn't to bad on them.
Year before guide wires held them up & stakes were nessary on all stands that didn't stake down.
Drills to make holes, the ground is concrete.

I think TD follows Ibs vfs rules that say flags can't be above bench to target parallel height.
I can't figure out how that works on the angle from bench to the 300m on top of the Berm.

I personally don't like seeing the very last ones in my scope ...i make decisions based on them when it's the 150 - 200 ones that seem to be the ones to read. ... I still set up that way though...
Go figure ...

 

[Tim Singleton]

Anyone?

Jimmy
if I remember right the 100yds between 200 and 300 is where you need up to the 20fters
the 300meter frames are on top of a berm

if you have 3 that will go that high then a couple more that can go to 15 ft. Then normal flag height for rest of the field will get you by for first time out there.
3 screw in stakes and guy wire attachments to all the 20fters

 

[jimmymac]

Thanks Tim. I may need to bench share with somebody that needs another guy. Not sure where a guy buys 20 foot poles these days.

 

[P1ZombieKiller]

Thanks Tim. I may need to bench share with somebody that needs another guy. Not sure where a guy buys 20 foot poles these days.

they make them. we used fishing wire tied to normal flat washers to slide over the pivot point of the flag. it worked out pretty good assuming you stretch the wire too tight, and your flagpole looks like it's the spoon from the Matrix.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Thanks Tim. I may need to bench share with somebody that needs another guy. Not sure where a guy buys 20 foot poles these days.

Jimmy, I can make 21ft poles that are very good. They're stable in any reasonable wind but can be guy wired if it's really windy. Ime, get them in the ground good and these are pretty solid. I've gotta order material for more poles tomorrow. The tubing has been going up fast, like everything else. I should know a price sometime tomorrow.

 

[JMayo]

Mid Carolina 300m