Turning To Air Guns

[tmwinds]

Never mind, I remember seeing it now. You also have .22

This is what I shot today.

 

[Danoh]

Hope my scope isn’t so long it blocks the loading port. 14 1/2”

 

[Danoh]

How is the recoil? Does it seem like it will be a “scope-eater”? The Riton I have is supposedly air gun rated, but I’m not sure if that applies to springers.

 

[tmwinds]

Hope my scope isn’t so long it blocks the loading port. 14 1/2”

It will be close but I think you will be good. Mine is 13 1/2 and has some room to spare.

 

[Danoh]

It will be close but I think you will be good. Mine is 13 1/2 and has some room to spare.

Thanks. My apologies for beating you to death with all the questions.

 

[tmwinds]

How is the recoil? Does it seem like it will be a “scope-eater”? The Riton I have is supposedly air gun rated, but I’m not sure if that applies to springers.

If it’s air gun rated you’re good. Recoil is very light but the scope killer is that it recoils forward and backwards.

 

[tmwinds]

Thanks. My apologies for beating you to death with all the questions.

Not a problem.

 

[Danoh]

If it’s air gun rated you’re good. Recoil is very light but the scope killer is that it recoils forward and backwards.

Yes, I remember that - “dual recoil”. The Riton website says they are airgun rated and have a lifetime warranty.

 

[Danoh]

Not a very good picture, but it seems like the reticle would be well suited for an air rifle.

 

[tmwinds]

Not a very good picture, but it seems like the reticle would be well suited for an air rifle.

Perfect

 

[weedhopper]

Most of my powder burners are being sold .
I love air guns.
Check out Extreme Benchrest.
I shot the match in 2021 and I’m hooked !
My RAW 1000x is a tack driver .

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Most of my powder burners are being sold .
I love air guns.
Check out Extreme Benchrest.
I shot the match in 2021 and I’m hooked !
My RAW 1000x is a tack driver .

Id like to go to extreme benchrest this year. Thats the route im taking anyway with my equipment and practice

 

[JayHHI6818]

I bought a IZH46 10-12 years ago to shoot air silhouette. Kids had fun shooting it in backyard.

 

[Danoh]

I’m glad you posted that. I have a whole set of 1/5 scale silhouettes from many, many years ago when I competed in .22 rimfire matches. I’ll have to dig them out - had forgotten I had them.

 

[coj0502]

I have a Rapid Air Weapons HM1000 in .357 and it is stupid accurate. I shoot the 81 gr JSB's and have no problems with squirrels at 75 yds. I am willing to bet with a proper ballistic profile and range finder I could dial to yardages well beyond that.

 

[jlmurphy]

I'm having a hard time visualizing any scenario where a .177 shoots flatter or kills better at longer distances than a pellet with twice the weight. What do you consider long range?

The .22 is a better choice for hunting, makes a bigger hole, has more kinetic energy. The .177 heavy pellets have a higher ballistic coefficient and can be driven at a higher velocity with the same charge giving them a flatter trajectory. The sport of Field Target consisted of knockdown animal targets with 3/4" and 1" kill zones at unknown distances and was dominated by .177 rifles. I don't know if it still exists as a sport, look it up.

 

[jlmurphy]

More on .177 vs .22. I agree that a .22 cal. pellet will do more damage than a .177, but a .177 hit is better than a .22 miss. I have shot thousands ( really ) of ground squirrels with a .177 RWS 48 rifle modified to recoilless, before the 54 Airking was introduced, many at over 100 yards. Hunting around orange groves, offhand and supported when possible, no range finder ( before lasers ), the pellet drop was always the issue, ( I love it when they stand up, aim for the throat ) and I can say without reservation the .177 made more hits than the .22. Just my experience.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

The .22 is a better choice for hunting, makes a bigger hole, has more kinetic energy. The .177 heavy pellets have a higher ballistic coefficient and can be driven at a higher velocity with the same charge giving them a flatter trajectory. The sport of Field Target consisted of knockdown animal targets with 3/4" and 1" kill zones at unknown distances and was dominated by .177 rifles. I don't know if it still exists as a sport, look it up.

I looked up the extreme benchrest field target match, huge match, and not a 177 in the field period. They shoot from 30-80yds in the wind. No 177 in the 50 or 75yd benchrest results nor the speed silhouette match. All these matches are dominated by 25+gr 22cals

 

[jlmurphy]

Dusty,
I stand corrected, I haven't been in airguns for a long time, mostly High Power Varmint Silhouette and BPCR Silhouette ( very addicting ), until everybody became too old or died. Thanks for making me feel 100 years old!
John

 

[JayHHI6818]

I’m glad you posted that. I have a whole set of 1/5 scale silhouettes from many, many years ago when I competed in .22 rimfire matches. I’ll have to dig them out - had forgotten I had them.

Your welcome. I have two sets of air targets and my kids would shoot them in our backyard. Taught them home to shoot
In our basement one winter. They got tired of shooting paper targets so I would blow up balloons size of golf balls and taped them to cardboard box backstop. Made it fun. Son is now 21 and daughter 25