Been to the gates of hell,... got the t-shirt!
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want some interesting reading.....research mRNA. Then, the CDC spin on changing the definition on something that WAS considered "for experimental use only" to "vaccine". Finally, google the data on mRNA actually reducing your natural immunity and making one more susceptible to reinfection..
The information and data is out there......at least make an informed decision and understand all sides of the issue.
The information and data is out there......at least make an informed decision and understand all sides of the issue.
gambleone
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The difference is that the smallpox, polio etc didn't have the ability to mutate like covid does. Just keeps mutating & we can't keep up.
Keep in mind I have not gotten a shot and I don't plan to.
Flu shots can help - no guarantee - and if it is someone who is compromised then it would likely be the safer bet to get one. I say the same for any other respiratory shot. Anytime you accept medication into your body it comes with risks. Weigh them and decide.
The important thing is that it remains a personal choice. People who try and play the blame or guilt game are nothing more than "tools."
Dusty Stevens
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The doctor that invented it back in 1971 just got banned from twitter for talking about it
Dusty Stevens
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Its funny twitter banned him for spreading misinformation on the vaccine he invented
Chaotik
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If you look at the published studies of the Pfizer or Moderna trials (or the FDA briefing documents), the primary endpoint of both trials was to prevent covid infections. Secondary endpoints included preventing severe infection. I really wonder whether the vaccines would have gotten approval without a clear statistically significant primary endpoint.... I can't remember a drug even being considered for approval without meeting the primary efficacy endpoint in a large clinical trial....that is a hard stop in my mind.
So I suspect that if a variant such as omicron had emerged early in 2020 and been included in the trial data, we may be having a different conversation.
CharlieNC
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That was the message in the beginning, before there was sufficient data. The message evolves to politically suit the current data, so stay tuned for the next version.
Sadly that happens a lot in the liberal media. They count on Americans being too apathetic or uninformed to notice.
rwj
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Would that be Dr Robert Malone, the one who just did a very enlightening podcast with Joe Rogan?
Dusty Stevens
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He did a interview with Joe Rogan. It’s an eye opener!
No that's not how the vaccine works. You can still get and transmit covid, but ideally the vaccine will minimize the symptoms. Much like how the flu shot works. Everytime we get hit where i work, it's always the vaccinated people, because all but one of us are vaccinated.
Dusty Stevens
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Theyre mad at rogan for getting over covid without the pharma getting rich from it
My definition was basically one of cause and effect. The effect of the vaccine is what I meant. Creating immunity is the purpose of getting vaccines for sure. What they do is cause a reduced illness from the virus.
Dusty Stevens
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Which is called a prophylactic if i remember right
I'm pretty sure I had it in December of 2019, I had ALL the symptoms but was never tested to see if I had the anti-bodies in my system. I got the vaccine and the only issue I had with that was my arm hurt at the injection site for about 12 hours. This recent past December I came down with something that resembled Covid-19, I had most of the symptoms but when I was tested, it came back negative. Now I have a question, what is different about the vaccines for Covid-19, boosters are being required (two, three and sometimes four shots) in addition to the first dose administered. They're saying these shots only help reduce the effects of the virus, and do not protect against it. Back when we were vaccinated against polio and smallpox, these vaccinations were to protect against contracting either disease, why aren't these vaccines protecting against Covid-19? Even flu shots protect against the strains of flu that are in the vaccine you receive.
I think I had it also only in December of 2020. Woke up feeling tired and sore. No energy and no appetite. Lasted 48 hours. Woke up the 3rd day feeling normal. Got the two vaccines regardless. Getting my booster tomorrow. Won't get another after tomorrow.
the simplest answer is because they are mRNA, not the weakened or dead pathogen that causes the disease. mRNA does not confer lasting immunity. Even worse, mRNA can decrease your body's natural immunity making you more prone to reinfection. Research it, and make your own conclusions.
Dusty Stevens
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