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Status of NRA rules, E-Targets, certification and records?

XTR

F-TR obssessed shooting junkie
From the 2020 NRA rule changes: (the latest I can find online)

4.1.2 Electronic Target
Systems – Where electronic target systems are being used, only NRA-Licensed
and Certified electronic target systems shall be used in NRA Registered Tournaments and NRA sanctioned State, Regional and National Championship Tournaments. NRA Approved Tournaments and other events where national records are not at issue may use electronic scoring systems that are not NRA-Licensed and Certified. NRA-Licensed and Certified Electronic Target Systems shall meet all minimum requirements set forth elsewhere in these Rules.

Has the NRA licensed or certified any target system yet?

How are MD addressing this, and how are records being addressed? How are you holding regionals on E targets? National Records can only be fired during Registered or "higher" matches. Are there any national records being reported on E targets?

I recently shot a match and the MD announced at the Day 1 briefing that because of the status of E targets none of the scores would be eligible for records.
 
Keith says he called to see if the NRA has ever certified an E target system, and they have not.

I have a ShotMarker. As a match director I also put up and take down either three or the four the club owns for our small monthly approved 600 yard matches and tend to targets. I shoot on them at Bayou monthly too.

I don’t see an accuracy problem fortunately on our heavy framed set up at the base of the wind shielding berm, but I’m certain Keith’s video is correct and representative of how others do, and it’s a courageous piece to have posted.

They keep people in the game and eliminate pit injuries and fatigue, and we have to credit them for that. Or perhaps they reallocate the fatigue, but they have never once, not a single time, added a score up wrong.
 
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I have a note in to the Competitions division at NRA -I will post what I learn when I learn it.

I am guessing another exemption, being as they haven't done anything to certify that I am aware of.

Frank
 
I think the NRA has already squeezed the toothpaste out of the tube on this one.

I don't see how they could say they're no longer accepting records for uncertified e-target systems, when they've been accepting records on uncertified e-target systems for years now.

That doesn't even take into account their inability to enforce any kind of standards as it pertains to 7-sec delays, dropped shots/exploding bullets etc.

Seems to me it would be a little difficult for the NRA to walk that one back.

Keep in mind though, I'm an idiot, and my opinion is worth what you paid for it. :)
 
Why even shoot an NRA match? Instead of giving the NRA $8 per shooter give it back to the competitors in form of cash, prizes, trophies. Go have fun! I realize some care about records but 99.9% will never have an nra record. Unless something has changed in the last year or so there had not been a rule that said that you could not shoot etargets and manual targets at the same match At the same time. Wouldn't that be interesting having both etargets and manuals at same match.
 
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FWIW,
I ran a MR Regional here in MN this year, my first match with E-targets. I am aware of the electronic target rule and am aware that NO system has been certified by the NRA as of yet. My match bulletin, which I sent to the NRA for match approval, clearly stated electronic targets would be used and no pit service would be required. If there was an issue, I would have expected to hear from the NRA.

Also, our state NRA association has adopted, at least informally, a set of guidelines for E-targets when used at matches. Our state's LR and MR Regionals and state championships for F-Class and sling shooters have been fired on E-targets for 2 years now.

I have ran many matches on manual targets where national records have been fired in the past, but records are becoming more rare now. I also know many of the shooters probably wouldn't attend matches anymore if required to pull targets, either due to age/health/or being spoiled.

This is an interesting issue.....
Scott
 
From the NRA International Rifle Rule book

Section 4, beginning on pg. 20

• 4.1 Official Targets - In Registered and Approved rifle matches only targets bearing the woIn Registered and Approved rifle matches only targets bearing the words “Official National Association” and the eagle and shield insignia of the Association or ISSF approved targets will be used without any alterations. Targets used in National Championships will be NRA Official Targets or ISSF approved targets. When appropriate, targets will be mounted only vertically on existing range hangers (frames) with the highest numbered bullseye(s) at the bottom. All NRA Official Competition Targets are printed by NRA licensed manufactures only. They may not be modified by the user of manufacturer, except with specific written permission from NRA Competitive Shooting Division. NRA target masters are made using Computer As- sisted Design and must be used in production of all NRA targets.

As an alternative to using the official paper targets, the use of electronic scoring targets that use the dimensions listed in this section is authorized for all NRA International Rifle competitions. Any electronic targets used should be commercially manufactured to close toleranc- es and a high degree of reliability so the scoring using these targets accurately duplicates, or exceeds the scoring accuracy that would be achieved using paper targets.

(Companies currently (October 2012) producing such targets include, but are not limited to: Megalink, Meyton, Polytronic and Sius Ascor.)


-tc
 
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effendude said:
FWIW,
I ran a MR Regional here in MN this year, my first match with E-targets. I am aware of the electronic target rule and am aware that NO system has been certified by the NRA as of yet. My match bulletin, which I sent to the NRA for match approval, clearly stated electronic targets would be used and no pit service would be required. If there was an issue, I would have expected to hear from the NRA.

Also, our state NRA association has adopted, at least informally, a set of guidelines for E-targets when used at matches. Our state's LR and MR Regionals and state championships for F-Class and sling shooters have been fired on E-targets for 2 years now.

I have ran many matches on manual targets where national records have been fired in the past, but records are becoming more rare now. I also know many of the shooters probably wouldn't attend matches anymore if required to pull targets, either due to age/health/or being spoiled.

This is an interesting issue.....
Scott
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If they don’t tell me I can’t then obviously it’s ok….. Considering the non responsive staff at NRA you could probably print that you were allowing 260Rem in F-TR and they wouldn’t notice. Surely that would be fine by the above logic. As the MD I’d think it was your responsibility to run the match in accordance with the rules.

The problem here is that the 5% of the competitors who have the skill to win care, the other 95% are just happy they got to shoot, they got a score, didn‘t have to pull targets, and the match was over by noon.
 
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