Scope ring spacers

[EOD Rob]

So, I happened along 2 sets of Badger Ordnance scope rings that are in 34mm. I do not have any scopes in that tube size, but i do have several 30mm. Looking around, I found scope spacers that will take the 34mm down to 30mm. My question would be, is this a good option for long range shooting? What are the Pros and Cons and opinions?

Thanks up front!
Rob

 

[243Lapua]

I got the 30mm to 1 inch, No problems, Mine are made out of Delrin.

 

[EOD Rob]

I got the 30mm to 1 inch, No problems, Mine are made out of Delrin.

Was looking at the LaRue spacers. Top notch company.

 

[243Lapua]

Was looking at the LaRue spacers. Top notch company.

They should work

 

[EOD Rob]

They should work

Ordered 2 sets!

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Why would you want to do that when you don’t even own a 34mm scope? Just sell them and get 30mm rings to go with 30mm tubes. Or save them if you ever plan on getting a 34mm scope

Only cheap junker eBay Chinese made rings offer reducer bushings. You will never see a good quality scope ring manufacturer doing that

 

[EOD Rob]

Why would you want to do that when you don’t even own a 34mm scope? Just sell them and get 30mm rings to go with 30mm tubes. Or save them if you ever plan on getting a 34mm scope

Only cheap junker eBay Chinese made rings offer reducer bushings. You will never see a good quality scope ring manufacturer doing that

Badger Ordnance offer them! LaRue Tactical as well!

 

[AlNyhus]

Only cheap junker eBay Chinese made rings offer reducer bushings. You will never see a good quality scope ring manufacturer doing that

I've used the GG&G 30mm-to-1" Delrin reducers for quite a few years. They are high quality and have a flange on one side that gives you options on using using them with different ring widths. Buying a set of 30mm rings and using a 1" scope and reducers leaves your options open down the road. Plus, the Delrin conforms to the scope tube, will not mark or mar the tube and gives more contact to the tube than the rings themselves (unless they are bedded).

For what it's worth....-Al

Kelbly Atlas: Talley 30mm rings, GG&G reducers and Sightron 6-24 1" scope:

Kelbly Panda 30BR, 30mm Kelblys rings, GG&G reducers and Sightron 36X 1" scope:

 

[Ledd Slinger]

No thank you. I buy correctly sized rings and bed them to the tube.

 

[EOD Rob]

No thank you. I buy correctly sized rings and bed them to the tube.

Slinger, I totally get what you are saying. Normally I would buy the scope first, then buy the correct rings to go with. However, in this situation, the rings came first. I have a hard time scraping 2 sets of $200 rings that I got for free just to spent the same on 2 of the same sets in a different size. Especially when I can buy a set of reducers for $31 from a quality company like LaRue Tactical or Badger Ordnance. To me, the cost savings and versatility is worth giving it a shot and if it doesn't work out, then I'll spend the extra money. Plus, like said above, it leaves options open for later.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Slinger, I totally get what you are saying. Normally I would buy the scope first, then buy the correct rings to go with. However, in this situation, the rings came first. I have a hard time scraping 2 sets of $200 rings that I got for free just to spent the same on 2 of the same sets in a different size. Especially when I can buy a set of reducers for $31 from a quality company like LaRue Tactical or Badger Ordnance. To me, the cost savings and versatility is worth giving it a shot and if it doesn't work out, then I'll spend the extra money. Plus, like said above, it leaves options open for later.

I understand. You asked for opinions and I gave you mine. Nothing more.

The idea behind good scope mounting is to have the least amount of parts with a chance of moving under recoil as possible. Custom action manufacturers realized this and started pinning their scope rails and using 8-40 mounting screws. But that wasn’t enough for some manufacturers so they also machine the scope rails integrally to the receiver. Even scope rings have evolved to become more rugged with integral recoil lugs and bigger beefier 8-40 screws. Then you have uni-mounts like those from Spuhr and NighForce that are even tougher and more rigid with the bridge that supports the two rings together.

So I guess my point is that putting inserts into a ring set (especially when you don’t need to) is essentially going backwards from the current evolution of scope mounting methods and technology. If you’ve ever tested scopes for movement under recoil against a frozen optic you’d understand just how important proper scope mounting is.

It makes no difference to me if Badger, LaRue, or any other brands sell ring inserts. That doesn’t make them acceptable to me personally. I’ve never used their equipment anyhow. Better options out there in my opinion. But if inserts work for you that’s great and I hope it shoots well

 

[AlNyhus]

No thank you. I buy correctly sized rings and bed them to the tube.

I've been bedding rings (tops and bottoms) for a couple of decades and somewhat savvy the process. High quality inserts, while not my first choice, do offer some advantages...especially for those squeamish about lapping/bedding rings.

Good shootin'. -Al

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I've been bedding rings (tops and bottoms) for a couple of decades and somewhat savvy the process. High quality inserts, while not my first choice, do offer some advantages...especially for those squeamish about lapping/bedding rings.

Good shootin'. -Al

Yeah i suppose it depends on the amount of recoil a rifle has as well. I personally only use Seekins rings or the Vortex rings made by Seekins. NightForce and other rings are good quality as well but they do not have the clamping force that Seekins delivers on the scope rail with the two screw design.

For one piece scope mounts I prefer Spuhr or NightForce and feel they are well worth the money. Spuhr uni mounts are the strongest design I have encountered so far.
Spuhr also makes some very nice two piece ring sets but I do not feel they offer any advantage over Seekins rings especially considering you could almost buy 3 sets of Seekins rings for the price of one Spuhr set.

 

[EOD Rob]

I understand. You asked for opinions and I gave you mine. Nothing more.

The idea behind good scope mounting is to have the least amount of parts with a chance of moving under recoil as possible. Custom action manufacturers realized this and started pinning their scope rails and using 8-40 mounting screws. But that wasn’t enough for some manufacturers so they also machine the scope rails integrally to the receiver. Even scope rings have evolved to become more rugged with integral recoil lugs and bigger beefier 8-40 screws. Then you have uni-mounts like those from Spuhr and NighForce that are even tougher and more rigid with the bridge that supports the two rings together.

So I guess my point is that putting inserts into a ring set (especially when you don’t need to) is essentially going backwards from the current evolution of scope mounting methods and technology. If you’ve ever tested scopes for movement under recoil against a frozen optic you’d understand just how important proper scope mounting is.

It makes no difference to me if Badger, LaRue, or any other brands sell ring inserts. That doesn’t make them acceptable to me personally. I’ve never used their equipment anyhow. Better options out there in my opinion. But if inserts work for you that’s great and I hope it shoots well

You are totally right, and I truly am thankful for your opinion! Please do not think I dont! Also, you are right with everything you have said! I'm just in an abnormal situation that does not happen to me very often and just had a thought to share with the group for input. Zero disrespect meant from my end and totally agree with your views. Your practice is my normal practice as well. And yes, I'm I trying to get off cheap! Guilty as charged and 9 of 10 times it does not work out!
This is what makes this site so great! Everyone gets to share their own experiences with the group, in hopes to make the sport better!
Please continue passing the knowledge and experience to all!

Rob