Cocking Piece Angle

[Edd]

Can someone explain why this Model 700 part would not work just as well if the angle was cut at 90°.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

It would still work, but the sharp edge would be all that contacts the top lever of the trigger and it would have much less downward pressure leading to inconsistent ignition in my opinion. For it to work as well in that configuration, both the cp and top lever would need to be very hard and polished very well.

 

[geo.ulrich]

It would work fine but top lever should also be ground and at a slightly less than 90* it helps with upward push on bolt but I'm not sure its worth the work it takes ... It was messed with at least 40 yrs. ago..

 

[STS]

It would work fine but top lever should also be ground and at a slightly less than 90* it helps with upward push on bolt but I'm not sure its worth the work it takes ... It was messed with at least 40 yrs. ago..

Was that when you were 35?

 

[geo.ulrich]

25 you were close

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Was that when you were 35?

It would work fine but top lever should also be ground and at a slightly less than 90* it helps with upward push on bolt but I'm not sure its worth the work it takes ... It was messed with at least 40 yrs. ago..

Yes, it's been played with and I'm not aware of any conclusive evidence that it helped. I'm not sure how it could help, when the upward pressure is released before the firing pin hits the primer. I think wind flags and practice are maybe a better area to put our focus. Just my thoughts.

I've heard the argument about vibration from the bolt relaxing. Well...God forbid someone fire another gun on the bench next to you at a BR match, then.

 

[DaveTooley]

Also depends on the location of the pivot pin. Remington being in the front does not help the mechanics. Two forces opposing each other with a 90 degree interface.

 

[Edd]

It wouldn't be two forces opposing each other with a 90 degree interface. It would be a rounded edge on the cocking piece contacting the slope on the trigger bar.

 

[DaveTooley]

I see what your saying as only the cocking piece is 90 degrees. I'm looking at it like both the cocking piece and the top lever have a 90 degree interface which some triggers have. They work because the pivot point is in the rear. I would think a small contact area would increase friction causing inconsistency. I think this is one of those occasions that if it Ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[Will Henry]

The angled faces with the forward pivot is not the best system and never was. Not on the Remington, not on the Winchester, not on the Sako. Nonetheless, having the angles match is probably best. If the bolt fits the receiver, the effect of upward lift is minimized anyway. WH

 

[Ggmac]

Angled cocking pieces also help reset the trigger . A 90 may require a user to hold the trigger down to open the bolt . Hope this makes sense , no coffee yet