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If I have a 243 Winchester do I need a 223 Remington

I have only the ADL, Bmag and Mark II for bolt guns.

In order of caliber diamiter, 17hmr, 22lr, .243, 25-20, 30-30, ,357, 35, 38,55, 45-70 in Lever rifles.

Working on getting a 1885 Low Wall in 17wsm and I'd be happy.
 
Sanity check.
My goal is really to have a lever rifle in all the calibers I shoot.
I have a Finnwolf in 243, most accurate rifle I own.

I have Reminton 700 ADL in 223rem accurate if you can get past the 10 pound trigger.

I have shot them both at the 600 yd range and they preformed beyond my skills.

Had a Brain Fart yesterday looking at a box of 58g V-Max 6mm a friend gave me.
58g is only 3 grains more than the 55g 224. Mmmmmm. And the 243 also shoots heavier bullets....
Why do I need the 223, I've thought about the Long Ranger but now...why.

Varminter to Speed Goats in a nice lever rifle.
First off, in a free society, and contrary to the sentiments of a lot of wives, girl friends and twisted politicians, you do not have to demonstrate a "need" in order to justify the purchase of "jist one mo gun." Beware of that trap!
However, given the short supply of almost everything, including powder, it appears to me that unless a 20count box of factory ammo is a five year supply, a 223 simply makes good economic sense.
I personally do not find anything(weight, recoil, blast) about the 243 to be offensive, although many folks might. I agree that most anything the 223 can do, the 243 might do better, but assuming we're talking about a good gun/scope combo, good load for the intended task, and good shot placement, there are mighty few everyday tasks that a decent 223 can't handle.
I have both and I can state that 98% of the time, the 223 gets tapped for the job cause as my ole grandpappy that grew up in the depression and limited his arsenal to a single shot 22LR and an Iver Johnson 12ga used to say, "Boy...dead is dead."
 
Need? Probably not, like ahs been said a 243 will suffice buuuut... the 223 is perfect for many varmints and it is cheap to load for and easy on barrels. Have owned one in the past amd would own one again, its great when you want to just go out to the range and shoot some steel at hunting distances.
 
Yup! Burns out barrels better, too!

There is no debate that the 243 Win is harder on barrels than the 223 Rem. Also, the vast majority of my varmint and predator shot opportunities are under 300 yards. Thus I use the 223 Rem more than any other caliber for varmint / predator hunting. But I still have great admiration for the 243 Win perhaps because I my long history with the cartridge.

Barrel wear on the 243 Win can be minimized by managing shot sequence and carefully reloading. I have a Rem 700 that has over 3,000 rounds through it and it still hold a 1" group at 100 yards. Granted, that isn't varmint grade accuracy out past 300 yards but it certainly serviceable for varmint / predator hunting at 300 yards and under. And still very capable for deer size game. At least for me, 99% of my varmint / predator shot opportunities are under 300 yards at the farms where I hunt. Also, my effective range is limited by my field shooting style, i.e. shooting off cross sticks. So this rifle, even at that shot count, is still serviceable for me.

Also, I hunt eastern ground hogs so its not like hunting pdogs out West where you're burning a lot of rounds in one hunting trip. I certainly would not choose a 243 for pdog hunting but for the one rifle hunter, the 243 Win is very useful as an all purpose caliber here in the east, i.e. varmints / predators / deer.

I've managed my shots at the range allowing the barrel to cool between shots and I believe that this extended the life of the barrel. Also, you don't need to load to maximum to obtain excellent velocity and accuracy. For example, using my favorite bullet, the 85 Sierra BTHP, an all purpose bullet, moderate charges of IMR 4064 gives me velocities in the 3000 to 3100 f/s range with excellent accuracy.

Slow burning powders like IMR 4350 also produce excellent accuracy and higher velocity but at the cost of considerably more powder. If you believe Sierra's remarks on barrel life, the more powder the more barrel wear, then lower powder charges can enhance barrel life.
 
All great advice here! I'll just add that a Timney trigger will transform your Remington ADL to something you'll be much happier with.
 
Target guns and hunting guns. Call me cheap! When I put a target gun (re: high volume) together, I try to pick a cartridge with longer barrel life. .223, 308, 6br, etc. Those I shoot the most. I have a couple 6ppc’s, 300 Win Mags, 6.5-284s, 6xc, etc. Those are my ‘once in a while” guns.
Hunting guns that are shot very little can be anything. I’ve had an old German made 300 Weatherby for 40 years. It’s very accurate but I’ve only put about 100 rounds thru it since I’ve owned it.
 
Sanity check.
My goal is really to have a lever rifle in all the calibers I shoot.
I have a Finnwolf in 243, most accurate rifle I own.

I have Reminton 700 ADL in 223rem accurate if you can get past the 10 pound trigger.

I have shot them both at the 600 yd range and they preformed beyond my skills.

Had a Brain Fart yesterday looking at a box of 58g V-Max 6mm a friend gave me.
58g is only 3 grains more than the 55g 224. Mmmmmm. And the 243 also shoots heavier bullets....
Why do I need the 223, I've thought about the Long Ranger but now...why.

Varminter to Speed Goats in a nice lever rifle.
What can I buy with my $1400 help me out check?
 

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