Vudoo Barrel manufacturers

[Center10]

I use Bartlein on my SB and have had great results. I use them on my Full-Bore Palma rifles too.

 

[RAVAGE88]

..and your observations are based on....?

His observations are based on what they're always based on....conjecture.

MB

 

[striperfisher]

His observations are based on what they're always based on....conjecture.

MB

This has done been covered Mike...you said yourself in other threads....we don't slug or lap barrels

 

[RAVAGE88]

This has done been covered Mike...you said yourself in other threads....we don't slug or lap barrels

If you go back and actually look at all the words I used, I made it clear that it wasn't being done at the time I wrote those words, but it didn't mean that I wouldn't be doing it at some point. Although we haven't historically lapped or slugged the repeater barrels, we're doing things a little differently for the single shots.

MB

 

[striperfisher]

If you go back and actually look at all the words I used, I made it clear that it wasn't being done at the time I wrote those words, but it didn't mean that I wouldn't be doing it at some point. Although we haven't historically lapped or slugged the repeater barrels, we're doing things a little differently for the single shots.

MB

So are you lapping and slugging them? And cutting the crown in the correct required place??? Apparently not or you would be proud to say you are....not whats with all this unfounded conjecture you said I was spouting about?

 

[RAVAGE88]

So are you lapping and slugging them? And cutting the crown in the correct required place??? Apparently not or you would be proud to say you are....not whats with all this unfounded conjecture you said I was spouting about?

We're slugging, not lapping and why would I think it's important to explain it to you? Have you called as a genuinely interested customer? Does your typical online activity give me any reason to participate in a useful exchange? Did you post in this thread to add value or to seize another opportunity to take a shot?

Like I said, pure conjecture and you're owed nothing.

MB

 

[striperfisher]

We're slugging, not lapping and why would I think it's important to explain it to you? Have you called as a genuinely interested customer? Does your typical online activity give me any reason to participate in a useful exchange? Did you post in this thread to add value or to seize another opportunity to take a shot?

Like I said, pure conjecture and you're owed nothing.

MB

I was just asking questions from you and answering questions from other members....nope you don't owe me a thing....you do owe the information to the people your charging $3500 plus to build a supposedly custom bench rifle for...

 

[Snozzberries]

I feel like I just walked into a field and stepped in a fresh cowpie.

If the Ace barrels aren't lapped and slugged, are Bartlein barrels? Has anybody found an accuracy difference between them? Does it even matter?

How about the profiles? Have the MTU-V profile barrels been found to be more accurate than the Kukri contour barrels?

 

[doclu60]

To the OP, none of the barrels you have asked about would be on my list for a rimfire rifle, if wanting precision accuracy. That being said, I don't live in the repeater action shooting realm of RF shooting.

As to the other posts here that do not pertain to your question, I'm just eating popcorn and routing for the guy that's NOT part owner of the company involved. Kind of like "an insignificant" follower.

 

[Snozzberries]

To the OP, none of the barrels you have asked about would be on my list for a rimfire rifle, if wanting precision accuracy. That being said, I don't live in the repeater action shooting realm of RF shooting.

As to the other posts here that do not pertain to your question, I'm just eating popcorn and routing for the guy that's NOT part owner of the company involved. Kind of like "an insignificant" follower.

I have an Anschutz 1813 already, with a 20x Unertl scope. It's single shot, in great condition. Like fine jewelry. Shoots amazingly well.

Now I'm looking for a repeater, with a threaded barrel, that I can put a modern scope on a picatinny rail, so I can easily dial for distance. Something I can take camping, and won't be afraid to get it dirty. I figured a Vudoo was the place to start?

Does Vudoo offer barrels besides the Ace/Bartlein/Proof?

 

[1813benny]

I have an Anschutz 1813 already, with a 20x Unertl scope. It's single shot, in great condition. Like fine jewelry. Shoots amazingly well.

Now I'm looking for a repeater, with a threaded barrel, that I can put a modern scope on a picatinny rail, so I can easily dial for distance. Something I can take camping, and won't be afraid to get it dirty. I figured a Vudoo was the place to start?

Does Vudoo offer barrels besides the Ace/Bartlein/Proof?

As you have questions on what options are available, I would recommend contacting Vudoo to discuss your requests. Why bother with 3rd hand information when you can get direct responses - with the exception of when Mike answers questions on the forum.

If you have not already done so, you might want to check out the thread on the Vudoo repeaters at the Snipershide.com rimfire section of the forum. There is a large contingent of Vudoo owners online there.

Regards,
ken

 

[doclu60]

I have an Anschutz 1813 already, with a 20x Unertl scope. It's single shot, in great condition. Like fine jewelry. Shoots amazingly well.

Now I'm looking for a repeater, with a threaded barrel, that I can put a modern scope on a picatinny rail, so I can easily dial for distance. Something I can take camping, and won't be afraid to get it dirty. I figured a Vudoo was the place to start?

Does Vudoo offer barrels besides the Ace/Bartlein/Proof?

Sorry if you took my post as to other barrels being offered on the Vudoo. From the OP's original question, I would say no.

I am not a Mike Bush fan and do not, because of that, keep up with what is available on the Vudoo repeater factory produced rifles. I would think from the original post (thread starter) that barrels I would select are not available on the the factory built rifle. If I did want to own a Vudoo actioned rifle , I would buy the action and have it custom built by the smith of my choice with the barrel of my choice, Muller or Shilen Ratchet. Others, considering what a Vudoo repeater would be used for would be, Lilja or perhaps a Benchmark 6 groove. The first two would be my primary choices though.

Scott

 

[RAVAGE88]

I feel like I just walked into a field and stepped in a fresh cowpie.

If the Ace barrels aren't lapped and slugged, are Bartlein barrels? Has anybody found an accuracy difference between them? Does it even matter?

How about the profiles? Have the MTU-V profile barrels been found to be more accurate than the Kukri contour barrels?

Very sorry that your thread turned South; this is a typical condition when those with an axe to grind join in just for the sake of promoting what they promote. Very few of them shoot as well, where they say it matters most, as they arrogantly represent on the internet; they seem to forget their scores can be viewed at anytime. Also, they're not the voice of authority as it relates to anything Vudoo and they're not fans of mine because I don't/won't worship and cater to a small group of people that expend an incredible level of energy trying to be relevant and I've made this very clear.

To answer your question directly, we use Vudoo/Ace, Bartlein, Proof and have used some Lothar Walther barrels on our repeaters. These barrels are not lapped at Vudoo but they are slugged for in-house reasons. Profile has no bearing on accuracy. The history of using these barrels on our repeaters speaks for itself and obviously anything said here to the contrary is, as already established, pure conjecture. Some of the barrels mentioned above by those that truly don't know, failed validation (Lilja) and others (Benchmark) have not been validated. I won't use anything that can't pass validation and don't take anyone's "word" for it that they will. This is what makes what these guys say, so ridiculous.

Also, you'll note the two contributors that are here to propagate rhetoric and show ignorance are not rifle builders; they have to depend on others to do that for them....they regurgitate information and don't/can't originate information. Doclu (Scott Albury) is the one I responded to on another forum on 11/10/2019 about the exact subject of lapping and slugging and it's the post where Striperfisher did a horrible job of applying effective reading comprehension skills, so, again, I apologize that it created a land mine for you some years later. Scott was being a phallus back then and it's no surprise he's being a phallus now and Striperfisher has always been....just a follower.

If you have questions that requires relevant answers without the element of the Romper Room types, please either reach out to me directly via PM here or tune into the thread on Sniper's Hide (https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/vudoo-gun-works-v-22-rimfire-bolt-action.6569243/). The rimfire shooter's there have always checked their ego at the keyboard and the trolls from BR sites don't last two seconds when they say something stupid.

MB

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

I was wondering what is the diameter that are being used, because the tenon size is 1" so a normal .900 wouldn't work right?
are blanks being turned down? I don't imagine they are 1" diameter when finished

Lee

 

[RAVAGE88]

I was wondering what is the diameter that are being used, because the tenon size is 1" so a normal .900 wouldn't work right?
are blanks being turned down? I don't imagine they are 1" diameter when finished

Lee

Lee,
The breech cylinder diameter for every blank we use is 1.2". The contour (for the repeaters) from there is determined by a few factors and mimic what is seen in the centerfire world. The contours close to what our specific contours are, are more commonly known as Medium Palma, MTU (we have our own MTU) and a few lighter contours from there. The contours for the V-22S quickly radius to .900" and run this diameter to the muzzle.

MB

 

[striperfisher]

Very few of them shoot as well, where they say it matters most, as they arrogantly represent on the internet; they seem to forget their scores can be viewed at anytime.

I'll save you the trouble MB...I think I'm qualified to speak rimfire benchrest!!!
What happened to Bullet Pro 150 and the Love affair with Mr Ivan Wells???

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Lee,
The breech cylinder diameter for every blank we use is 1.2". The contour (for the repeaters) from there is determined by a few factors and mimic what is seen in the centerfire world. The contours close to what our specific contours are, are more commonly known as Medium Palma, MTU (we have our own MTU) and a few lighter contours from there. The contours for the V-22S quickly radius to .900" and run this diameter to the muzzle.

MB

Mike,
So are the 1.200 being turned down. I use 1.200-.850 straight taper and have the 1.200 turned down to 1" and then chamber the barrels. I been using 3-G Benchmarks with excellent results. I have not had a single bad barrel from them.

Lee

 

[RAVAGE88]

Mike,
So are the 1.200 being turned down. I use 1.200-.850 straight taper and have the 1.200 turned down to 1" and then chamber the barrels. I been using 3-G Benchmarks with excellent results. I have not had a single bad barrel from them.

Lee

No sir, we don't turn them down since we don't use the small .750" thread tenon.

I've heard awesome things about Benchmark rimfire blanks and have had great success with their centerfire barrels. However, as a matter of course, I validate what we use so there's actual data to support our path forward; Lilja failed miserably in the consistency department and they've been raved about. Of course it's possible to get a few good barrels from any brand, but consistency is hugely important. I "feel" Benchmark can deliver this (they're very good at what they do) but I have to create some time to do the validation, which is hugely time dependent.

MB

 

[10XSHOOTER]

My single shot Vudoo has a 24" Shilen ratchet on it. I asked for that barrel.
I can't outshoot it.

 

[jbell]

I know it is a very small sample rate I am just 1 guy with a limited budget but here are my first hand experience with some of the rimfire barrels in question:

-3 Lilja barrels one on an Anschutz 54.18 MSR repeater, one on an Anschutz match 54 (was a 1813 originally), and one on a CZ 455
-2 Benchmark 3 groove both on Anschutz match 54 actions (one replaced the Lilja that was mentioned)
-3 Bartlein barrels all 3 on V-22 repeaters one a 1st generation MTU and 2 2nd Gen repeaters Kukri profiles
-2 Ace barrels both in 1 Gen V-22 Kukri profiles
-1 Shilen Ratchet on a 2500XR

All 3 Lilja barrels were seriously nothing special, they were not horrible but damn they just would not shoot. I spent a lot of time and money lot testing all the high end ammo trying to get the Lilja‘s to shoot but no dice. The Benchmark that replaced the 1 Lilja was a hammer FWIW.

All of the other barrels I have mentioned were truly excellent barrels, I can not say one was better than the other and absolutely recommend any of them. The interesting thing about all the other barrels is that they all shot any quality match ammo really really good without any lot testing at all.

I manage the 6X5 thread on The Snipers Hide so I get to see a LOT of rimfire targets from a lot of different barrels and manufacturers. Based on the years of data I have compiled I am blown away with the accuracy that Vudoo Gun Works rifles are consistently putting out there. See for yourself:

6X5 Thread V5.0 *new 1/1/21*

Hey guys welcome back to the "NEW OLD HIDE", its good to be home! So getting back to business I am starting the 6X5 thread over from scratch. Same rules: Rules are pretty simple. There must be exactly six groups of 5 shots, all on one target board. No more, no less. Every shot on the group...

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