Rem 700 extractor repair options

[Edd]

Edd, You got it right. However, you didn't say what size face your bolt has. I don't install M-16 style on 223 size cases because to mill deep enough, you either get into the firing pin channel or very close to it. I have heard of a couple that do. most, like me, don't.

I'm not the one needing the work done, codybrown is. He said his rifle was a 220 Swift.

However, I do have a 223 bolt with a mini 16 extractor but it is a Defiance action.

 

[Richard Jones]

Just send it to carlsbad and let him fix it. No need in trying to figure out what he should do, just let him fix it like he wants to and itll be done right

Exactly what I'm doing............

 

[carlsbad]

I'm always willing to help but don't mind at all losing work to others. I have plenty to keep me busy so if I can help I'm glad to but never feel bad about choosing someone else such as LRI linked earlier. thanks, Jerry

PS while it may look like I'm sitting here just playing on the internet, since 5 this morning I have rewritten 12 pages of a peer reviewed paper due to a conference next week. No problem keeping busy.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I just heard back from Jim Borden. Sako is still standard, hook extractor on request. Good news.

 

[centershot]

Non of the posters are who I was referring to. Not being one who does this service, I do no understand why you would open up the bolt face and then install a "washer" to reduce it back.

 

[carlsbad]

Non of the posters are who I was referring to. Not being one who does this service, I do no understand why you would open up the bolt face and then install a "washer" to reduce it back.

You open it up to get rid of the undercut from the original remington extractor. I've seen it done without the bushing but it is generally considered unprofessional. --Jerry

 

[Pawnee Bill]

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of an incident where the Sako style extractor failed (due to design failure and not operator induced)? I have 1 on a Rem 700 in 308 that Mike Bryant did many many years ago and it still works great. In looking at it, it looks like a good design to me. Someone please enlighten me.

 

[carlsbad]

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of an incident where the Sako style extractor failed (due to design failure and not operator induced)? I have 1 on a Rem 700 in 308 that Mike Bryant did many many years ago and it still works great. In looking at it, it looks like a good design to me. Someone please enlighten me.

I don't think anyone is saying that it fails per design. the postulated and storied failure, which people I trust say they have seen, is an overpressure event that ejects the extractor down the lug channel on the right. If ou are right handed, your head will be on the left but it might catch your cheek.

The overpressure event would be caused by human error, such as shooting another round with a squib in the barrel.

--Jerry

 

[GenePoole]

Since they, more or less, snap into a detent and are not fixed with a pin like M16, the gas flow can easily dislodge it. I've seen pictures, but can't find the link, of a case rupture at a range where the extractor was found embedded in a wall behind the shooting point.

 

[Edd]

I've never owned a Sako Rifle but I have looked at a few. Don't they have a bar attached to the bolt blocking the lug raceway that would prevent the extractor from exiting? A crafty Gunsmith might make a part like that for a 700 bolt.

 

[Pawnee Bill]

I don't think anyone is saying that it fails per design. the postulated and storied failure, which people I trust say they have seen, is an overpressure event that ejects the extractor down the lug channel on the right. If ou are right handed, your head will be on the left but it might catch your cheek.

The overpressure event would be caused by human error, such as shooting another round with a squib in the barrel.

--Jerry

"The overpressure event would be caused by human error, such as shooting another round with a squib in the barrel." That's what I thought. A good design, that get's a bad rap due to human foul ups. Still waiting for a first hand story.

 

[carlsbad]

Bill, As a nuclear engineer, I have to say this. nobody should assume that they won't make a mistake. We have to design to accommodate a certain level of human error. We all have to make a decision what level errors they are willing to accept since you can never eliminate all risk. I feel pretty confident I'll never blow up my rifle. If you do, you may have bigger problems than the extractor.

Link to accurateshooter article on Kaboom. https://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/gunsmithing/338-lapua-mag-catastrophic-kaboom/

 

[DaveTooley]

Here's a kaboom

 

[Pawnee Bill]

Here's a kaboom
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As Paul Harvey used to say, "What is the rest of the story?"

 

[STS]

3X. I've seen 3 Sako extractors ejected from Remington bolts in the last 25 years. It can be argued either way whether it's a design flaw or not, but the simple and undeniable fact is that it can and does happen. I was range officering a match when a shooter had a case failure and ended up having the extractor surgically removed from his cheek directly below the eye.

 

[SBLH10]

Here's a kaboom
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To me that kaboom looks it started with case failure with to much bolt clearance.

Chet

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Here's a kaboom
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Is that a sako/m16 combo bolt?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

"The overpressure event would be caused by human error, such as shooting another round with a squib in the barrel." That's what I thought. A good design, that get's a bad rap due to human foul ups. Still waiting for a first hand story.

There was a guy at a short range match that had a sako extractor hit him in the forehead and killed him. Not going to mention names but like the lee primer trays cratering faces it happens. People dont just make it up- safety rules are written in blood same with safety precautions. Who would ever think a sako extractor would come directly down a raceway?

 

[DaveTooley]

Is that a sako/m16 combo bolt?

Howa M-16 style.
I salvaged the barrel which got launched 15 yds. down range. Put it on a 700.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Howa M-16 style.
I salvaged the barrel which got launched 15 yds. down range. Put it on a 700.

It looks like theres a cutout for a sako right above it or did the gas cut that out?