Shotguns which semi auto ?

[shortgrass]

I have 9 o/u 's 2 singles and one pump. I wanted a semi auto that won't break the bank with reliability . I understand the hold. But the guy right next to me that started his form at the same time and ended after me was approved. Our ATF is FU

The NICS check isn't ATF, its the FBI

 

[hogpatrol]

Another vote for the Benelli. Had an M2 DSG in 12, sold it and bought the same model in 20. Super accurate with Federal Trophy coppers and Lightfields, both 2-3/4" slugs.

 

[ebb]

A friend in Mississippi has a son on the local high school sporting clays team. Coach told him every body uses the same Turkish semi auto Berretta copy. I think he said they were around $300. Zero problems with them.

 

[agr516]

I am a big fan of old Browning A-5's and use them for nearly all of my shotgun needs. If I were to buy a new auto, it would be a Beretta. The Benelli's feel good in my hands and do shoulder well but I cannot stand that soft closing bolt. I have heard the "Benelli click" way too many times from my friend's shotguns in the field to ever consider buying one. Was pheasant hunting in KS once with a buddy who had a brand new Montefeltro. Multiple times during that trip, a pheasant would flush in front of him and I would only hear him cuss because his new Benelli failed to fire because his bolt had been bumped open just slightly while he was carrying it. If that were me, I would have been tempted to tie that expensive new Benelli into a bow around the nearest fencepost.

 

[agr516]

 

[rkittine]

Until things settle down at the New Remington, I probably would stay away from one of thier's though I have 6 of them, that I love. I am also partial to the Beretta 400 series autoloaders.

Bob

 

[ballistic64]

Don't buy one until you can handle the particular gun before buying. If you can't easily adjust the drop and cast of the stock on the particular model you are considering, pass on it and keep searching. It takes quite a bit of trial and error with these shims but once set right for the individual, the sights will just naturally seem to align when the shotgun is thrown to the shoulder.

 

[Trophied]

The Benelli "click" only exists in the older versions. They solved that problem. That said, all the clones (inertia driven) will still have it because they use the older design. My Franchi does it, but I have to let the bolt move forward very slowly to cause it, and I can't imagine any field condition that I would find myself in allowing it to do that. There is no reason to soft close the bolt on it, unless the bolt is open and you're turkey hunting, but why anyone would sit around with a shotgun that has the bolt open is a mystery to me. The very nature of my shotgunning dictates that targets will appear and disappear quickly, leaving little time to make the gun ready. Inertia guns are very light, and I would recommend getting the upgrade recoil pad on the Franchi, trust me it makes a difference. I have both 12 and 20 gauge Affinity's in Max 5 camo, as well as 12, 20 and 28 gauge O/U's, a Remington 870 28 gauge, and the Franchi's are the lightest of the bunch, not the most fun, but the lightest. Hobo Oil would be my choice of lube for a Franchi, it lessened the "click" issue a little when I purposely caused it to occur so I could see if there was a difference.

 

[wkdickinson]

I have an older Berretta A390 which is the nicest auto I've ever shot. Much of what I like about is how soft the recoil is, even with 3" mag. It's also totally reliable. When I was duck hunting a lot I bought a Benelli Super Black Eagle. It was an amazing gun, but very punishing, being a lock-breach gun, especially with 3 1/2" mag. I sold it when I quit hunting ducks.

 

[rardoin]

I had a Benelli SBE and now own two Beretta A400's. I'll take the A400 over the SBE....particularly if you have to use occasional 3 1/2" shells to bust geese. The Xplor has a change over the original A400 in that the trigger guard profile is more rounded and comfortable to shoot magnum shells whereas the original would bust a knuckle on 3 1/2" shells. I use mine almost exclusively for duck hunting in muddy rice fields and clean the gun only at the end of a season unless it took a dive off a vehicle into the muck. They just never misfire unlike the SBE I had.

 

[MikeMcCasland]

Berettas - Gas > Inertia in most scenarios. Generally more reliable, and much softer shooting.

 

[SPQR70AD]

The Benelli "click" only exists in the older versions. They solved that problem. That said, all the clones (inertia driven) will still have it because they use the older design. My Franchi does it, but I have to let the bolt move forward very slowly to cause it, and I can't imagine any field condition that I would find myself in allowing it to do that. There is no reason to soft close the bolt on it, unless the bolt is open and you're turkey hunting, but why anyone would sit around with a shotgun that has the bolt open is a mystery to me. The very nature of my shotgunning dictates that targets will appear and disappear quickly, leaving little time to make the gun ready. Inertia guns are very light, and I would recommend getting the upgrade recoil pad on the Franchi, trust me it makes a difference. I have both 12 and 20 gauge Affinity's in Max 5 camo, as well as 12, 20 and 28 gauge O/U's, a Remington 870 28 gauge, and the Franchi's are the lightest of the bunch, not the most fun, but the lightest. Hobo Oil would be my choice of lube for a Franchi, it lessened the "click" issue a little when I purposely caused it to occur so I could see if there was a difference.

I wonder if a stronger return spring would help the Benelli bolt lock up. also firing a few hundred rounds at skeet might make the parts mesh together

 

[SPQR70AD]

I know this is a reloading forum. But I only belong to this one.

So if you were to buy a new semi auto which one and why. I have looked at the Franchi affinity at Sheels for 799.00 which seem like the best deal. One problem I dove to Rapid city today to buy it and was put on hold by the ATF. I denied the sale because I don't want to drive back. I had my wife try and Sheels would not let her do to the fact we live in the same house WTF.

So after getting home I see the Benelli has an M2 and Montefeltro for about the same as the Franchi . Beretta has the outlander and so on. I need a gun that will fire below zero conditions. I had a mossberg 930-that sucked in the cold.

Ideas without breaking the bank.

Thanks

I have a 930 ate everything I fed it. I got a custom gas piston that was tested at 2500 rds without cleaning but it never jammed before that upgrade. if it is 15 below I aint hunting. worked outside 45 years and when I am getting paid I worked when it was 20 below

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I wonder if a stronger return spring would help the Benelli bolt lock up. also firing a few hundred rounds at skeet might make the parts mesh together

Ive had them from the black eagle in the early 90’s to present. Even following the bolt home just push it and theres no problem. It can get dirtier than a gas gun even ice in the action and they work everytime

 

[Dusty Stevens]

please dont get me wrong, this is my hat today

 

[Sniper338]

Don't buy one until you can handle the particular gun before buying. If you can't easily adjust the drop and cast of the stock on the particular model you are considering, pass on it and keep searching. It takes quite a bit of trial and error with these shims but once set right for the individual, the sights will just naturally seem to align when the shotgun is thrown to the shoulder.

This is what I was trying to say in my post, but it was 2am and I was falling asleep.

 

[pikespeakgoat]

I've had Remington 1100 and11-87, Benelli SBE and now Beretta A400.... I will never get rid of the Beretta, it just flat out works every single time w/o exception no matter what I feed it, light dove loads to 3 1/2" goose loads, 100° to -20°.

 

[Trophied]

I saw a guy shooting an M2 on a Dove hunt one day that looked a little strange. The conversation with him went something like, "I was duck hunting with a friend and in the process of picking up decoys and putting them in the boat I knocked my M2 off the seat and into the water. I had no way to find it/retrieve it so I had to come back the next day to recover it and it was a pile of rust, so I cleaned it up and been using it ever since with no problems". It was that smooth dark brown color that steel exposed to the environment and then well used can have. I was shooting my Affinity that day and both inertia guns had a good day.

 

[L1986]

Another vote for Beretta! Have A400 Extreme Plus and A400 upland. Both are reliable and easy shooters. A little expensive but worth it in my mind!

 

[jdh47]

I pick my shotguns for what I intend to do with them. I use a Benelli MF90 with a 26" barrel for upland and a Remington 870 B grade Trap for ducks when I hunt them but it's not often. My wife bought me the Benelli and I gave my son my old Beretta 390. I do believe the Beretta is better. I have a friend that shoots sporting clays a lot and uses a Beretta. He's put thousands of rounds through it with no issues.