Squeaking when resizing brass

[Tony1320]

What would cause brass to squeak kind of loud when resizing? Requires moderate force to size the brass

Lapua 6.5x47 brass , Redding FL bushing die

Shoots great no issues that I can see just find it odd

 

[Mark M.]

Lack of lube?

 

[Tony1320]

Lack of lube?

I don't think so I use imperial die sizing wax and no issues with my .308 brass

 

[JFrank]

As posted ensure proper lube, also record the amount of re-sizing by the die as not all dies are a good fit for your chamber. I had to have a couple thousand honed out

 

[WIB3]

More lube!

 

[Tony1320]

As posted ensure proper lube, also record the amount of re-sizing by the die as not all dies are a good fit for your chamber. I had to have a couple thousand honed out

Using imperial die sizing wax and I'm not having issues with .308 brass.

I just measured some brass the die is sizing down brass about .005

 

[JFrank]

Using imperial die sizing wax and I'm not having issues with .308 brass.

I just measured some brass the die is sizing down brass about .005

Yeah...
.004 is about where my stuff starts gettin squeaky, .002-.003 they size like cuttin butter

 

[Tony1320]

Yeah...
.004 is about where my stuff starts gettin squeaky, .002-.003 they size like cuttin butter

Do I try another die and hope it fits my chamber better or how do I get mine to the right size?

 

[jr600yd]

Sounds like your sizing die has an expander ball. The die sizes the neck down when brass goes into the die. The expander ball opens the neck up when the brass comes out of the die. The expander ball is what’s making the noise.

 

[Tony1320]

Sounds like your sizing die has an expander ball. The die sizes the neck down when brass goes into the die. The expander ball opens the neck up when the brass comes out of the die. The expander ball is what’s making the noise.

I don't use the expander balls in my dies. See above I think SPJ has me on the right track

 

[Bc'z]

Send 3 pieces of brass to the die maker of your choosing

 

[jr600yd]

Sounds good, go for it!

 

[JFrank]

Send 3 pieces of brass to the die maker of your choosing

This works well

 

[chromatica]

For now you might try dipping the necks in Imperial Dry Neck Lube. It is very fine graphite and will ease the friction going into the neck of the die. Many of us use dry lube on the necks because we don't want to contaminate the powder charge with wax or grease.

 

[chromatica]

I had problems trying to FL size Lapua brass for my 260. I was running an expander ball and excessive force was required to pull the case out of the die, even when I used dry lube on the necks. Lapua brass contains a small amount of iron and it makes the cases harder to work. I switched to ADG brass and the problems went away.

 

[TheOtherZilla]

No lube INSIDE the neck.

 

[Uncle Ed]

Using imperial die sizing wax and I'm not having issues with .308 brass.

I just measured some brass the die is sizing down brass about .005

In a semi-auto you want the case body .003 to .005 smaller than its fired diameter. This allows the case body to spring back from the chamber walls and extract reliably.

My guess is your die is on the small side of the diameter limits and oversizing the case body for a bolt action.

I would ask the members here how much does a custom die reduces body diameter, .005 smaller seems excessive.

If the die is new you could try polishing the die with a shotgun cleaning mop in a drill and some J&B Bore paste, automotive rubbing compound. Mothers Mag and Wheel polish, etc. Many new dies have a dry film coating for protection and "MUST" be cleaned with a good solvent. The last dies I bought said to clean the die with Hoppe's.

If you want more noise when full-length sizing then try sizing 7.62 Lake City brass that was fired in a machine gun.

 

[Tony1320]

In a semi-auto you want the case body .003 to .005 smaller than its fired diameter. This allows the case body to spring back from the chamber walls and extract reliably.

My guess is your die is on the small side of the diameter limits and oversizing the case body for a bolt action.

I would ask the members here how much does a custom die reduces body diameter, .005 smaller seems excessive.

If the die is new you could try polishing the die with a shotgun cleaning mop in a drill and some J&B Bore paste, automotive rubbing compound. Mothers Mag and Wheel polish, etc. Many new dies have a dry film coating for protection and "MUST" be cleaned with a good solvent. The last dies I bought said to clean the die with Hoppe's.

If you want more noise when full-length sizing then try sizing 7.62 Lake City brass that was fired in a machine gun.

My .308 Redding dies size down about .002

I'm going to order a new die

 

[JFrank]

My .308 Redding dies size down about .002

I'm going to order a new die

You can send three x fired cases to Wilson along with your request they will hook ya up.

 

[Big Mc]

What would cause brass to squeak kind of loud when resizing? Requires moderate force to size the brass

Lapua 6.5x47 brass , Redding FL bushing die

Shoots great no issues that I can see just find it odd

Willson dies. But I would change lubs before I spent money on custom dies. Just my Two cents. Tommy Mc