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Lab grade scale and trickler help

PAshooter20BR

Can some of you precision guys point me in the right direction of what’s currently available for a lab grade scale with trickler system. Some of the old reviews I read on the forum are discontinued not sure where to start.

thanks for the help
 
Yep^^^^.
A&D 120i or Sartorious Entris 64 and The AutoTrickler

I have the pricier Sartorious but the cheaper A&D 120i will perform the required task just fine.
 
I am quite sure the first poster means the A&D FX-120I.
It is the most commonly used option, and is accurate enough to reliably register the weight difference produced by adding or subtracting a normal gunpowder kernel.

It's is a cost effective and fairly robust milligram balance of the force restoration principle, so it does usually not drift the same way a Strain gauge does and is much faster at stabilizing.
A labratory grade balance is a quite wide term, this one is not what i would commonly think of in that context but it works for reloading purposes very well.
 
Do I even need to say it? AutoThrow and AutoTrickler on an A&D or Sartorius.

The Sartorius is ten times more precise, but that extra precision isn't meaningful for reloading. In fact, it's kind of distracting and I wind up rounding the last digit anyway.....
 
The place to buy the scale . . . and at times the AutoTrickler/AutoThrower as well . . . is https://ceproducts.shop/ . This web site belongs to Cambridge Environmental, a Canadian lab supply company, and represents their US outlet primarily for reloaders.

By entering the code CAMBRIDGE during checkout, the price of (eg) the FX120i is reduced by around $250.
 
Twoboxer.s right about CE Products.....got mine some yerar's back for $450 if I recall.
That's without the V3 addition that I got from Adam at a later date. ( one fine combination for Competition reloading )
 
I have that exact set up with the Dandy trickler it works great. I dump with a Harrels .20 short of my load then trickle the .20 in. The auto throw is on backorder right now and has a 6 to 8 week wait. So I went this route I might not spend the extra money the auto throw cost when it comes avalable it works that well.
 
Ares said:
It's is a cost effective and fairly robust milligram balance of the force restoration principle
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It's not actually a force restoration balance. A&D call it a 'super hybrid' sensor. They won't explain what that means, but they also don't claim it is force restoration. They've overcome some of the problems commonly associated with strain gauge balances and it has fast settling time and good response to small changes (e.g. when trickling) but they can still be drifty when zero-tracking is either disabled or prevented from operating by the workflow - that is most unlike any force restoration balance. .
 
rox said:
It's not actually a force restoration balance. A&D call it a 'super hybrid' sensor. They won't explain what that means, but they also don't claim it is force restoration. They've overcome some of the problems commonly associated with strain gauge balances and it has fast settling time and good response to small changes (e.g. when trickling) but they can still be drifty when zero-tracking is either disabled or prevented from operating by the workflow - that is most unlike any force restoration balance. .
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It's main principle is still around a force restoration motor, in kind of a hybrid design.
And it's principle is still force restoration technology.

And yes you pay 4-500$ so you do not get the most refined weighing technology available, in a IP 65 balance that is fairly robust and your also paying for the development and the hassle getting it certified so they can be sold as legal for trade balances.

Even if A&D is not interested in sharing it, it's hardly difficult to find..
And to quote A&D when it was released: SHS is the next generation in force restoration technology.
So that is kinda what they have claimed indeed.

https://www.weigh.org/and/gx/shs.html
https://www.weigh.org/and/gx/sensor.html
 
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Ares said:
It's main principle is still around a force restoration motor, in kind of a hybrid design.
And it's principle is still force restoration technology.
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Interesting - thanks for those links. I spoke to A&D about 8 years ago when I was selecting balances for building powder dispensers, and at that time they denied that the FX range used force-restoration; perhaps they hadn't registered their IP yet.
 
My Sartorious Entris 124 says it uses a "weigh cell." Does anyone know what kind of measuring process that is?
 
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