Barrel Tuners
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R.Morehouse
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It will help you adjust that great load through temp and elevation changes so you may not have to adjust your powder charge. I run one on both a 6ppc & 30 Major & like the results. If you can use one & still make weight I think you should give it a go. I personally use Ezell tuners...
Regards
Rick
Regards
Rick
USMCDOC
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i going from what i think i remember.. but if the second shot constantly goes up.. turn the tuner out.. if it goes down.. turn the tuner in.. i have 50% chance that my brain is working correctly on this.
R.Morehouse
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I try to remember " down and out "....when the temp goes down, I move the tuner out. Very small adjustments, usually 1/2 to 1 # max. then verify on the sighter.
I adjust my tuner to bring different bullets into their best capability. They are definitely an asset as far as I'm concerned.
Baseball analogy....low and away, high and tight. Temp goes down move out, goes up move in, Always move in tiny, miniscule amounts.
They won't make a mediocre barrel into a hummer, but they can help you avoid those weird shots on a cool summer morning, when you were tuned in around 80º. In theory, the tune changes about every 5º. I can't see a change in amounts that small, but they are probably there. I do use a little more ammo for a match as I check the tune before the first match and later in the day as the temp rises.
Rick
As mentioned, the general trend is moving the tuner toward the action (in) as ambient temps increase and away from the action (out) as temps decrease relative to the ambient temp the rifle was tuned at. I compete in F-class and since I cannot check groups on a sighter target before calling for score I must make an educated decision on if and how to move the tuner based on testing that load in different conditions and different distances. It is much more difficult to use a tuner under those circumstances but still it is a useful tool when my load goes out and a .5 to 1 increment move tightens up the vertical a half minute at 1000yds. I don't move mine often but when I am getting more vertical dispersion than expected it gives me an option to adjust the rifle and perhaps better my score. For the record I use Ezell tuners. What a tuner won't do is take a mediocre load and magically make it great. It will, in my experience, keep a good/great load where it needs to be throughout changing atmospheric conditions.
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Dusty Stevens
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@gunsandgunsmithing can lend some advice here
Wouldn’t shoot CF or RF barrel without a tuner. All my centerfire barrels are threaded for Ezell tuners.
Ben
Ranger188
Silver $$ Contributor
"In my experience with these things, I think, I’ve never seen a barrel that actually did go to shooting better because of a tuner. What I think the tuner dose do is help to keep your rifle in tune through a larger range. I think that you will see that your rifle stays in tune better thru atmospheric changes than it would without a tuner. ??? I could be all wet about all of this though". –Gene Bukys
True statement or not?
True statement or not?
True enough but it also puts a tool at your fingertips that essentially does the same thing as changing the load, except much easier. So, they do two things...widen the tune window of a given load by lowering the frequency that the bbl vibrates at..slowing it down, in basic terms. And, the best part is it allows you to tune the rifle without changing the load. You can really maintain peak tune with one if you use it to its potential.
There have been some good replies on here from some experienced tuner users.
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i have only shot 2 matches with a tuner so far and I been shooting my rifle the day before at about 1030 am and setting my tuner then and its been shooting very well all day the day after at the match..I havent had to adjust anything at the match yet,,
shooting a 6BRA with 80 gr bullets at 3270fps,,12 twist Krieger HV at 24 inches and Woolums tuner
shooting a 6BRA with 80 gr bullets at 3270fps,,12 twist Krieger HV at 24 inches and Woolums tuner
It's like that a lot but not always. There are more days than not, that I never move my tuners or I check tune by moving a mark one way or the other but wind up right back or very near my original setting....Then, there are days that I've moved as much as two whole marks
from my original setting. FWIW, thats .002" of tuner travel. That's what makes them so easy to use. If you make big swings with it, you'll be chasing you tail. It's just not that complicated. The biggest problem people use to have is moving them in big amounts and too often. We've come a long way in that regard.when checking my tune the day before i shoot 2 shot groups at each 4 lines both sides of my zero setting ,,so far I have left it no more than 1 line from where I started,,I check it in the 1st sight in period at the match and then on the last target at 100 yards,,so far I havent seen a need to move itIt's like that a lot but not always. There are more days than not, that I never move my tuners or I check tune by moving a mark one way or the other but wind up right back or very near my original setting....Then, there are days that I've moved as much as two whole marks
Mulligan
Silver $$ Contributor
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/shout-out-to-mike-ezell.3996344/
this thread has some good info that you may or may not find helpful.
I recently traveled down the tuner road........ I now own three and Dan Dowling now stocks the Ezell tuner as a result.
CW
this thread has some good info that you may or may not find helpful.
I recently traveled down the tuner road........ I now own three and Dan Dowling now stocks the Ezell tuner as a result.
CW
I’ve won IBS 600 yd SOY two years in a row and set 4 IBS 600 yard records in the last two years ALL using an EZELL tuner. Mike and I butt heads but his tuner is awesome.
Bart
Bart
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