Ramblerman, I have to agree. I told the plant manager where I used to work all the shop guys should get an extra $5k per year. When he asked why, I told him it was so we could buy ready made products and that he would save far more than that in time and materials. I also told him all the g-jobs we did for ourselves, guys on the floor, supervisors, and HIM, kept our skills sharp and up to date, lol.Exactly brother...it was satisfying...but if anyone was to ask for one like it, I'd hand them a $20 bill and say "let me tell ya about one I saw online." Hahaha