No need to shoot it. It's discontinued and other options out there. I have about 1000 rounds left and then I'm done.
That is 711B, a target load and IMO a long way down the food chain from what I have read about UM22. I have shot the 711B and not even as good as the old Wolf Target and on par with Eley Target in my Challenge Edition or a 40X. Haven't tried it in my Vudoo yet.
I just happened across a thread at Rimfirecentral.com that explained what I've been wondering about concerning Federal discontinuing this Ultra Match line. Until now, I didn't realize that Federal was importing it from Germany and apparently it was a relabled production for Federal by RWS. At Rimfirecentral.com a poster pointed out that Ultra Match is essentially the very same as RWS R50. So, I went to my database and looked at the numbers for the Ultra Match and RWS R50 that I've fired and sure enough, all the numbers were in line with each other. So, since I can't get any more Ultra Match, I plan on using RWS R50 in it's place as it has performed as well in my gun as Ultra Match has.
Heard that too over there but tried some R50 and it shot much worse than the UM. Velocity different also. R50 was slower.
In my case, I wouldn't say there was a velocity difference. For example out of an RPRR's factory barrel I averaged 1093 fps for UM and 1108 fps for R50 (virtually no difference in terms of 22LR ammo). And when I ran them through a Shaw SS barrel of the same length UM averaged 1128 fps and R50 averaged 1136 fps (again, virtually no difference).
Given that when it comes to 22LR ammo, differences from one lot to another can be substantial. . . even among the best of Lapua or Eley. So, I wonder if this is the case in your experience as you've stated???
Possible. I shot it through my 18" Vudoo and my lots of UM were in the 1106-1115fps range. The R50 was down near 1060fps. Maybe just a bad lot.
Interesting that all of the posts above are only talking about brands, and not lots. UM22 from what I have heard is discontinued. Before it was, cost was way up there. Pretty sure all the deals people got on it was when it was known it was going to be gone by distributors. Around $15 to $17 a box was considered a good price back several years ago on UM22. It is/was the same as RWS R50.
Now, a little info for 'brand' shooters. If you want really good shooting ammo, forget 'brands'. Pick whatever brand you want, best to pick more than one, and order test lot bricks. For those that 'brand' shoot, one box per lot should be enough. One brick gives you 10 lots to test. Three different 'brands' gives you 30 lots to shoot. Test them, if you really want to get good performance. I have only been here (this forum) for a very short amount of time, but I see some of the same misinformed 'brand' shooting opinions on other boards.
A certain 'brand' only goes so far. Are you guys shooting a rifle that is chambered for a certain 'brand'? I doubt it. Lot testing with several different brands, and different variations within those brands, tells you what your rifle really likes. Find a good lot, whether you think it's a 'brand' you 'feel' is good or not, then buy as much of that lot as your budget allows.
No one I know that competes at a certain level, unless their barrel is chambered for a certain brand, does anything different to find best results for a certain barrel. Barrels, for the most part shoot lots good, not 'brands'. I have several barrels that shoot certain lots of a couple of different brands better than other lots of the the same brands. If your barrel is chambered for a certain brand, then the changes in brand may not work. From the posts I have seen here, that specific brand chamber most likely isn't the case.
Don't leave accuracy on the table by thinking 'brands' make any difference unless your barrel is chambered for such brand. I seriously doubt any factory barrel is chambered for a certain brand, save for Annies which (in general) do like RWS.
My point, brands have little to do with what a rifle shoots good unless it's custom chambered for a certain brand. Lot testing gives the best results, NOT brand testing.
Interesting that all of the posts above are only talking about brands, and not lots. UM22 from what I have heard is discontinued. Before it was, cost was way up there. Pretty sure all the deals people got on it was when it was known it was going to be gone by distributors. Around $15 to $17 a box was considered a good price back several years ago on UM22. It is/was the same as RWS R50.
Now, a little info for 'brand' shooters. If you want really good shooting ammo, forget 'brands'. Pick whatever brand you want, best to pick more than one, and order test lot bricks. For those that 'brand' shoot, one box per lot should be enough. One brick gives you 10 lots to test. Three different 'brands' gives you 30 lots to shoot. Test them, if you really want to get good performance. I have only been here (this forum) for a very short amount of time, but I see some of the same misinformed 'brand' shooting opinions on other boards.
A certain 'brand' only goes so far. Are you guys shooting a rifle that is chambered for a certain 'brand'? I doubt it. Lot testing with several different brands, and different variations within those brands, tells you what your rifle really likes. Find a good lot, whether you think it's a 'brand' you 'feel' is good or not, then buy as much of that lot as your budget allows.
No one I know that competes at a certain level, unless their barrel is chambered for a certain brand, does anything different to find best results for a certain barrel. Barrels, for the most part shoot lots good, not 'brands'. I have several barrels that shoot certain lots of a couple of different brands better than other lots of the the same brands. If your barrel is chambered for a certain brand, then the changes in brand may not work. From the posts I have seen here, that specific brand chamber most likely isn't the case.
Don't leave accuracy on the table by thinking 'brands' make any difference unless your barrel is chambered for such brand. I seriously doubt any factory barrel is chambered for a certain brand, save for Annies which (in general) do like RWS.
My point, brands have little to do with what a rifle shoots good unless it's custom chambered for a certain brand. Lot testing gives the best results, NOT brand testing.