I think I have found the ultimate carbon cleaner...

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

I will never forgive California for the garbage gas cans we all have now! That alone should have had them kicked out of the Union for the rest of time!

Never hold a grudge more than 30 year's, it will just eat you up !

 

[LeeA]

I will never forgive California for the garbage gas cans we all have now! That alone should have had them kicked out of the Union for the rest of time!

Actually there is one gas can that is vastly superior to anything else on the market. A fantastic design. I’ve been using them for a number of years now, and just can't say enough good about them!

THE NO-SPILL GAS CAN
Here’s a good review video:

Lee

 

[rwj]

I appreciate your response and I have read that here before but that does not mean it is necessarily correct. I hope a chemist speaks up. My little bit of research shows that there are at least 15 isotopes of Carbon. Graphite has a Mohs hardness of 1-2, extremely soft, while diamonds have the highest hardness, 10. You are saying I am removing carbon that you say is even harder than the barrel(Mohs 4-4.5) with a bronze brush(Mohs 3), which is softer than either of them. I'm not sure I buy into that. Maybe someone can convince me.

Wear is a complex topic and not solely a function of relative hardness. I’m hoping a tribologist is following this thread and can provide their insight. Lacking that, I can only cite instances where relatively soft plastics have induced more wear (loss of material) on sintered carbide.

 

[garandman]

Wear is a complex topic and not solely a function of relative hardness. I’m hoping a tribologist is following this thread and can provide their insight. Lacking that, I can only cite instances where relatively soft plastics have induced more wear (loss of material) on sintered carbide.

Think of it this way maybe.. .. sufficient amounts of water, even dripping water , can wear away stone.

Stone is harder than water, But with sufficient time , speed and quantity, water can erode rock.

It's not necessarily an all-or-none game… where All the wear occurs in the softer material and none occurs in the harder.

That said, I don't know the relative hardness of copper versus bronze, but I bet that a copper jacketed bullet going 2800' per sec will cause greater wear then a bronze bristle brush going 1 fps.

 

[TAJ45]

Actually there is one gas can that is vastly superior to anything else on the market. A fantastic design. I’ve been using them for a number of years now, and just can't say enough good about them!

THE NO-SPILL GAS CAN
Here’s a good review video:

Lee

Pretty slick.
Much better pricing than he mentioned when Goog'd. Will prolly get one for my 2 cycle use.
Production set up costs would have been high. Some big butt blow molds plus all of the other small plastic parts.
I had an "Oh Wow" moment when a supe mentioned a gang mold of 124 units per shot (cycle) of spray can tips - think rattle can or WD 40.

 

[Robert Weidler]

Ever tried Bore Techs C4 carbon remover?

It's the best thing I found 4 carbon removal. Anyone able to compare the 2?

Dampen a cloth with C-4 and wipe your case necks clean.

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

Wear is a complex topic and not solely a function of relative hardness. I’m hoping a tribologist is following this thread and can provide their insight. Lacking that, I can only cite instances where relatively soft plastics have induced more wear (loss of material) on sintered carbide.

Look at what water did to the grand canyon !

 

[garandman]

Dampen a cloth with C-4 and wipe your case necks clean.

I'll try that.

I've been wanting to Size before wet tumbling but have been concerned that the carbon could gum up my dies.

If this works I can clean the cases then resize then wet tumble only one time rather than 2

 

[jimmymac]

I haven't tumbled a case in two years now. I shoot my group, then wipe down the necks with some Ballistol to remove the carbon. Works good.

 

[tn6br]

All my gas cans are like this now. They are the best by a long shot.

Actually there is one gas can that is vastly superior to anything else on the market. A fantastic design. I’ve been using them for a number of years now, and just can't say enough good about them!

THE NO-SPILL GAS CAN
Here’s a good review video:

Lee

 

[redrockranger]

California ruins stuff for all of us. It like they need to legislate common sense in to the folks of that state. No offense to people that reside there, it’s just the mentality of the government “knows best”.

There is no place for common sense in the educational system. Remember truth is better than fact, anyway.

 

[golong]

The non-CA (and possibly other states) approved spray is Berryman B-12 Chemtool. Part numbers 0010 (10 oz), 0117 (16 oz). This spray WILL ABSOLUTELY MESS UP some finishes in no time. I had some mist onto the lid of my parts washer that requires the use of "California" approved chemicals - left blotchy spots on the darn thing! There is a CA version of these where the part # ends in C, same as mentioned with the dip.

Never thought to use it on a barrel. May need to give it a try.

 

[rwj]

Dampen a cloth with C-4 and wipe your case necks clean.

Tried C4, Ballistol works better for me...

 

[thekriebles]

Tried C4, Ballistol works better for me...

... even just using Hoppe's No. 9 works for me when wiping case necks clean as long as you do it right after firing your cases at the bench while they're still warm to the touch.

 

[Twicepop]

I like/use the Bore Tech C-4, but the post got me to wondering, how would oven cleaner work?

 

[Paddyd]

I like/use the Bore Tech C-4, but the post got me to wondering, how would oven cleaner work?

It would work fantastic, but very caustic and I wouldn't put it in any of my guns ever.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Bad thing about these type threads- a few will try it after a search, really mess something up, then say lesson learned and a year from now a search will reveal a thread where nobody reported the epic failure it really was. Before you use this stuff put a drop on a piece of metal and leave it for a day. It will remove cerakote in short order if you get the old/correct formula. The ca compliant version i dont know.

 

[rardoin]

If this is the same Berryman's Chem-Dip that comes in a 5gal steel pail and has a waxy floating surface layer to keep down fumes and solvent evaporation it is (as Dusty pointed out) some BAD stuff. It will soften hard carbon deposits but it is a very harsh solvent that I don't care to be around without a respirator and heavy solvent resistant gloves. I would not have it around my firearms. It will remove varnish from the bowl of any old carburetor however. The fumes are very intense.

As mentioned, the best carbon remover, IMO, is a good old bronze brush with a proper boreguide and bearing handled cleaning rod. Makes the job quick and no damage to the rifle bore if used properly.

 

[Nature Boy]

Man, Trichlor was the tits! I miss it like an old friend

 

[Uthink Uknow]

I have the solution.
Don’t shoot.
Just leave the gun in the safe and open the door when the mood moves you and look in.