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new dies for. 243 win

Hey Everyone,


Just asking advice on new high end dies. Looking at Redding currently Match grade. Had a new Hart Varmint barrel installed and want to do better than the generic Lee set I’m using not that they aren’t good just want to upgrade.

Thoughts!

Thx Frank
 
I've been loading for and shooting the 243 Win for over 40 years now. You can achieve excellent results with standard RCBS dies if you size your cases properly meaning full sizing with a .001 to .002" shoulder set back as measured from a fired case in the rifle you are loading for.
 
I've been loading for and shooting the 243 Win for over 40 years now. You can achieve excellent results with standard RCBS dies if you size your cases properly meaning full sizing with a .001 to .002" shoulder set back as measured from a fired case in the rifle you are loading for.

K22 excellent, what do you recommend for loads with 1 in 10 twist?
 
Redding - do you need the bushing type? Find a mate with a set and check them out for neck size etc Forster - excellent. I use both. (different calibers...) On a good day, Hornady and Lee can be fine - I'm partial to the Lee collet die used on a Dillon 550 for 223. Best to check out a few types before purchase if you can.
 
I've been loading for and shooting the 243 Win for over 40 years now. You can achieve excellent results with standard RCBS dies if you size your cases properly meaning full sizing with a .001 to .002" shoulder set back as measured from a fired case in the rifle you are loading for.
Please notice that the Forster dies in the video below have less runout than Redding bushing dies. ;)


Uncle Ed, I tried to reply and it went nuts. Very helpful thx
 
Before buying a die, read the information on the Redding website.
If the fired brass necks need to be sized down more then .008" a bushing die may not be for you?
I use the 243 win Redding type S fl sizing die, with 3 different bushings.

A fl custom fit honed neck die leaves no adjustment for neck tension and may not work with all brass.

Its possible to use a standard fl die and outside neck turn the necks to fit the die. This may work same as a custom die, but may not work with all brass/dies. Removing a lot of brass would not be good. Many variables.

The Lee die you now have needs to be checked to see how much its working the brass necks. .Measure fired brass Neck Outside Diameters. (Neck may not fully expand with starting to midrange loads, with slow burn rate powders and light bullets)
Measure a sized case with expander in the die.
Measure a sized case with expander removed.

Over working the necks shortens case life.
 
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K22 excellent, what do you recommend for loads with 1 in 10 twist?

IMR 4350 with Sierra 85 grain BTHP and Federal 210 primers. This is a do all bullet for the 243. Shoots like a match bullet and has excellent terminal performance. Work very well on varmints and predators and capable of dropping a deer in it's tracks IF you place your shot behind the shoulder in the vitals.

Having one bullet / load for all hunting has obvious advantages - you get to know your rifle / load very well and it builds confidence.
 
IMR 4350 with Sierra 85 grain BTHP and Federal 210 primers. This is a do all bullet for the 243. Shoots like a match bullet and has excellent terminal performance. Work very well on varmints and predators and capable of dropping a deer in it's tracks IF you place your shot behind the shoulder in the vitals.

Having one bullet / load for all hunting has obvious advantages - you get to know your rifle / load very well and it builds confidence.

Much appreciated, I don’t hunt anymore so mostly looking for target rds. Had really good success with 75gr HP’s but didn’t keep good notes so I’ve been trying to find my way back.

Now everything is well documented so reloading has taken a big step forward. Thx again
 
Before buying a die, read the information on the Redding website.
If the fired brass necks need to be sized down more then .008" a bushing die may not be for you?
I use the 243 win Redding type S fl sizing die, with 3 different bushings.

A fl custom fit honed neck die leaves no adjustment for neck tension and may not work with all brass.

Its possible to use a standard fl die and outside neck turn the necks to fit the die. This may work same as a custom die, but may not work with all brass/dies. Removing a lot of brass would not be good. Many variables.

The Lee die you now have needs to be checked to see how much its working the brass necks. .Measure fired brass Neck Outside Diameters. (Neck may not fully expand with starting to midrange loads, with slow burn rate powders and light bullets)
Measure a sized case with expander in the die.
Measure a sized case with expander removed.

Over working the necks shortens case life.

Great info! I now will have more questions after I check the Lee die and fired brass. There’ Truly a lot to learn! Thx for your input
 
Before buying a die, read the information on the Redding website.
If the fired brass necks need to be sized down more then .008" a bushing die may not be for you?
I use the 243 win Redding type S fl sizing die, with 3 different bushings.

A fl custom fit honed neck die leaves no adjustment for neck tension and may not work with all brass.

Its possible to use a standard fl die and outside neck turn the necks to fit the die. This may work same as a custom die, but may not work with all brass/dies. Removing a lot of brass would not be good. Many variables.

The Lee die you now have needs to be checked to see how much its working the brass necks. .Measure fired brass Neck Outside Diameters. (Neck may not fully expand with starting to midrange loads, with slow burn rate powders and light bullets)
Measure a sized case with expander in the die.
Measure a sized case with expander removed.

Over working the necks shortens case life.


243winxb,

I just inspected some fired brass. The neck sizes are different from various reloads. you know your craft! I’m going to try your method when I get some time thx
 
Your chamber is what it is. If you have a runout gauge check the runout on a few fired cases, resize them and check runout again with no bullet seated. Check them with the expander removed and with it installed. Ideally you would have 0 runout (not likely) or maybe 0-.003. If you neck turn you will most likely have less runout, but you should imo just skim the high spots off. As mentioned before if necks are too thin problems with neck tension can happen. If the Lee die you have is straight and true I don't see how spending more money will gain anything. If they are out of round I vote for Forster, but I agree with a previous post on RCBS dies, I have a bunch of them and have never had runout issues with them. I have had poor luck with any bushing die I have tried. jmo Barlow
 
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Harley’s best screw the rest.

Also Wilson makes good stuff
 
Your chamber is what it is. If you have a runout gauge check the runout on a few fired cases, resize them and check runout again with no bullet seated. Check them with the expander removed and with it installed. Ideally you would have 0 runout (not likely) or maybe 0-.003. If you neck turn you will most likely have less runout, but you should imo just skim the high spots off. As mentioned before if necks are too thin problems with neck tension can happen. If the Lee die you have is straight and true I don't see how spending more money will gain anything. If they are out of round I vote for Forster, but I agree with a previous post on RCBS dies, I have a bunch of them and have never had runout issues with them. I have had poor luck with any bushing die I have tried. jmo Barlow

OK I'll try this and see what I find Thx
 
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Harley’s best screw the rest.

Also Wilson makes good stuff

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