22-250 or 6mm Creedmoor?

[jthor]

Looking for opinions on this. Now with Bergara offering the HMR for left handed folks I’m looking to potentially get one for varmint hunting and just long distance plinking.

Looking at the 22-250 or 6mm Creedmoor. I have no experience with either.

22-250 Rem: 24” barrel and 1/9 twist

6mm Creedmoor: 26” barrel and 1/8 twist.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Bangs OH]

Since you’re even considering a 6mm with two more inches of barrel weight and a bit more recoil, I’d go with the Creedmore, as it will still smoke a .22 shooting the heavier bullets. I applaud Bergara for offering a faster-twist .22 but I’d want a longer barrel for that type of shooting; another “plus” for the AI magazines, but how long can ammo be loaded and still fit?
I have a stable of .20 cal. rifles that will run close enough to my .22 centerfires that I’ll usually reach for a .243/6mm if I need more bullet energy or wind-fighting ability. When I start “thinning my herd”, the .22s will be the first to go.

 

[CaptainMal]

Thought immediately comes to mind - How far is "long distance"?

I have variations of both, meaning 22-25 AI and twin 260 Ackely's. They do different things well. Just yesterday I was making palm-sized groups with my lighter 260 AI at 600 yards trying out the new Sierra Gamechanger bullets. BUT - It gets HOT after 5 or a few more rounds.

You can get more shots with the 22-250 before it gets hot. You can get way more shots with a 223 before it gets too hot. Size of the case and amount of powder would be a consideration if you are planning on lots of plinking. Varmint hunting, depending on what kind, can be a few shots spread out or a succession of barrel-burning blasts on ground squirrels or prairie dogs.

Say more about your distances, usage and expectations for a better informed answer. Just might be "neither" is the best answer.

 

[jthor]

For long distance just BS shooting 400-1000 yards

 

[284winner]

Man I'd have to say the 22-250 if it were me. Running 75 Amax's easily out to 1000 yards with little recoil. Cheaper to shoot too. The 6mm in an 8 twist is interesting too. Any chance you could do an 8 twist 22-250 ??? Then I'd say hands down the .224!

 

[varget204]

Most good 6 creedmoors will shoot 1/2 moa or better at 100 yards,you can get from 55 grain bullets over 4000 fps, to 115 grain bullets over 3000 fps,No 22/250 would compete

 

[swd]

The 6 Creed shooting 105-108 range bullets has a huge ballistic advantage over a 22-250 at long range. It's not even close.

 

[22DASHER]

Get the best of both worlds and do a 22 Creedmoor! It just makes too much sense....

 

[rkittine]

+ 1 for the 6mm over a .224 for long range.

Bob

 

[sw282]

Friend of mine has a Jarrett HB in 243 Winchester... Barrel twist is 1 in 14. lt wont stabilize anything over 70gr.. Accurate farther than he can see

 

[mongo chicago]

I have done prairie dog shoots with both - a 22-250 and a 6mm (Rem). Don't have the 22-250 anymore and have no regrets. Will stay with the 6mm from now on.

 

[Evlshnngns]

If you are going 1k often I would go 6mm just for the extra energy/splash. My 22-250 with 75gr is A LOT of fun, I would suggest it to anyone.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I’ve had a 22-250 for a long time, and it is a fine fast hard hitting .22 caliber round. If I had to do it over again, I would now just pass on it for a .223 plus a 6mm variant of some type.

 

[JFW]

You will be happy with 6mm over 22cal for long distance. Plus excellent choice of bullets to hand load for whatever the job. Lighter bullets will work as well as long as you don't push them to hard, and heavier are great for longer distances. I've owned a couple 22-250s before owning a 243 and 6mm AI and 6mmx284 and now use 6x47 lapua. Love 6mm don't own 22-250 after going to 6mm. I've killed groundhogs out to 1054yards with 6mm
Just my two cents.

 

[K22]

Having shot both a 22 250 and 6mm (243) for years I'd opt for a 6mm, especially for longer ranges. While I don't have any experience with the 6 MM creedmore, I do have a lot of experience with the 243 Win. Using the 80 grain Sierra Blitz or all purpose 85 Sierra BTHP is as good as it gets. That's not to trash the 22 250, it's a great varmint caliber I just think the 6mm is a better for longer range applications.

 

[284winner]

While I'll agree that the 6 Creed out performs the 22-250 at the longest ranges (1000 + yards), it's a false statement to say "Not even close". Do the homework on an 88 ELD vs a 105 VLD. You can drive the 88 a bit faster with a .545 BC than the Creed can move the 105 BC or .535. That puts the Creed at more energy (By small double digits) but the 22-250 still traveling faster at 1000. 1 MOA less drop at 1000 with the .224 bullet. I really wouldn't call that "Not even close". Too many people under estimate the .224 heavy bullets at long range. I would take the 6mm certainly due to possible wind conditions or just because if the heavier bullet. The 22-250 for sheer fun and almost no recoil in a heavier rifle. Cheaper to shoot and a Lazer. I own a 243 and 22-250 AI and I'll out my Ackley up against my 243 any day of the week when winds are non-existent. Especially for varmints or playing with Steel plates. For bigger critters, I'll stick with the 6mm.

 

[Tommie]

I’ve done them both. Other than recoil, the 6mm wins on all counts.

 

[284winner]

Agreed. Not by as much as many think tho.

 

[varget204]

While I'll agree that the 6 Creed out performs the 22-250 at the longest ranges (1000 + yards), it's a false statement to say "Not even close". Do the homework on an 88 ELD vs a 105 VLD. You can drive the 88 a bit faster with a .545 BC than the Creed can move the 105 BC or .535. That puts the Creed at more energy (By small double digits) but the 22-250 still traveling faster at 1000. 1 MOA less drop at 1000 with the .224 bullet. I really wouldn't call that "Not even close". Too many people under estimate the .224 heavy bullets at long range. I would take the 6mm certainly due to possible wind conditions or just because if the heavier bullet. The 22-250 for sheer fun and almost no recoil in a heavier rifle. Cheaper to shoot and a Lazer. I own a 243 and 22-250 AI and I'll out my Ackley up against my 243 any day of the week when winds are non-existent. Especially for varmints or playing with Steel plates. For bigger critters, I'll stick with the 6mm.

Don't know where your getting your data;i shoot a 6 creed 105 RDF nosler,at 1000 yards Drop is 243" {LESS };Energy is 689 foot pounds a lot more than Any 22/250

 

[swd]

If you want to pick high bc 22's like the 88ELD then compare apples to apples and compare the the high bc 6mm's like the 110SMK and the 115 DTAC. A 6 Creed can push 110SMK's and 115DTAC's at 3100. Both have right at .620 BC. At a thousand yards the 6mm has 2moa less drop and a little over 1 moa (about 12") less wind drift in a 10 mph cross wind.

If you compare more common bullets like the 105-108 6mm's to the 80gr range 22's the difference grows considerably larger in favor of the 6mm.

I shoot mostly 600 and 1K F Class. What's "close" or not is subjective but a 12" wind advantage in my shooting disciplines would be considered not even close. And this best a case scenario, again, when you compare 105-107 6mm's to the 80gr range 22's the difference grows even more in favor of the 6mm's.

If your only shooting to 500 yards you could call it close enough, but the OP's criteria was out to 1K. And don't get me wrong, I like the 22-250 especially the AI version, but when when you throw in that 1K distance there's a good reason why we go up to 6mm's and larger. Because it ain't even close..