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Texas or Wyoming?

Josh, one option is to look next door to Pennsy. There is only income tax on earned income, i.e. 1040 stuff. You'd have to go to one of the northern tier counties to escape high property taxes. Also, look at Florida. Homestead there, keep your place in SPR of Delaware (Socialist People's Republic) and go south in the winter and back up here in the summer. A couple of my friends have done that and no income tax in Florida. The big gotcha is access to excellent health care. We have it here and from what I hear, Florida has it too. Having said all that, if the girly men actually pass these laws, I'm lending all my good stuff to a buddy in PA. k-moon.gif
 
butchlambert said:
How do you figure that? Are you speaking of public hunting or parks and camping. I believe a search will show different opinion on that.
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Butch there is a lack of public land for any type of recreation in Texas, you want to go hunting etc. you pay someone for the privilege. Here is a link to the statistics. Wyoming ranks 5th with ~ 55% of the state comprised of public land (~34 million acres). Texas ranks 47th with ~ 2% of the state comprised of public land (~3.2 million acres). Break it down further, Wyoming has a population of 578k divided in 34 million acres = 59 acres per person. Texas 28.7 million human beings divided into 3.2 million acres = 0.1 acres per person... Anyone of us who live in the west can pontificate on the stream of Texas licenses plates crossing our borders come hunting seasono_O

https://www.nrcm.org/documents/publiclandownership.pdf
 
Texas , good climate, roads , people , food , and very important to me , hospitals and taxes . Down side , auto inspection, something I'm not use to down here in Florida.
Looking in Georgetown area
 
lawman29 said:
Butch there is a lack of public land for any type of recreation in Texas, you want to go hunting etc. you pay someone for the privilege. Here is a link to the statistics. Wyoming ranks 5th with ~ 55% of the state comprised of public land (~34 million acres). Texas ranks 47th with ~ 2% of the state comprised of public land (~3.2 million acres). Break it down further, Wyoming has a population of 578k divided in 34 million acres = 59 acres per person. Texas 28.7 million human beings divided into 3.2 million acres = 0.1 acres per person... Anyone of us who live in the west can pontificate on the stream of Texas licenses plates crossing our borders come hunting seasono_O

https://www.nrcm.org/documents/publiclandownership.pdf
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Tom, before having our own property to hunt on we went to a few different areas of the state for hunting and fishing on public property. Check with TPWD. . 28.7 million people in Texas do not all hunt.
Now another way to look at it is most in Texas can and will pay for the price of a place to hunt without the riff raff that shows up at the public hunting places.
A link: https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/hunt/public/
Tom, I've lived in Arizona, Oklahoma, Alaska, and 67 years in Texas. I did the public hunting mostly west of Paris, Texas. Even though I'm certainly not a shotgun guy we were able to hunt south and west of Wichita Falls for quail a few years ago.It was public land. I've leased property in the Brownwood , Cisco, and Seymour area before we found our own property just south of Rule.
The main problem with public property is you can set up a camp, but every time you hunt you have to take everything home with you.
 
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hogpatrol said:
Josh, one option is to look next door to Pennsy. There is only income tax on earned income, i.e. 1040 stuff. You'd have to go to one of the northern tier counties to escape high property taxes. Also, look at Florida. Homestead there, keep your place in SPR of Delaware (Socialist People's Republic) and go south in the winter and back up here in the summer. A couple of my friends have done that and no income tax in Florida. The big gotcha is access to excellent health care. We have it here and from what I hear, Florida has it too. Having said all that, if the girly men actually pass these laws, I'm lending all my good stuff to a buddy in PA. View attachment 1100414
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Dale, here’s the problem: If we “just” buy in Pa., she’ll want to sell this house and move. I finally fixed everything here. I just put in 18 new windows last week, for Chrise sakes! If we buy a small second house out west, then we can slide back and forth. Besides, we both love the mountain country! Florida in the winters? Maybe but I hear it’s getting crowded. There was a nice place across the street from Gary but it sold.
 
Some more Wyoming facts:
No State Income tax
Sales tax 4% (none on groceries)
Property Tax: my home has an assessed valuation of $212,000 tax=$1,480
State Farm home owners insurance = $647
In fairness you do get dinged on vehicle registration...(2016 Sequoia $600)

My recommendations on locations in Wyoming: The best - Cody/Powell, Sheridan/Buffalo, Lander (out of town watch the water...). If you have to on the I-80 corridor Cheyenne (only because it's close to Denver so you have access to events (sporting etc), airport and medical or Green River (better than Rock Springs, Rawlins & Laramie...) close to SLC for events, airport, medical etc.

I live in Cody. We have an airport with jet service via United through Denver, a Walmart, and good medical/hospital, Billings, MT(no sales tax...) is less than 2 hrs (lots of big box stores etc) with access to the two big Billings hospitals which have clinics in Cody.

If I had to leave Wyoming, Carson City, NV would be on my short list.

My wife will be retiring next year. We will be looking at something to rent Jan-Mar in Arizona, Wickenburg preferred, but we'll see........
 
I live in the Cheyenne, nothing much to do in the entire state, most go south from here to CO for "stuff" to do (besides shooting), nothing real for kids/family to do overall. Its windy just about every day of the year, sure we get good weather for a short time now & then, but remember wind is always on the table. You better like winter/cold as it runs 6 months. Snow is from a little bit to many feet, hail out here will pulverized a vehice & your home.
I80 & I25 are closed weekly throughout winter times locking you in or out of town.
Weather changes in a heartbeat on top of the rest.
Hunting is great, just about every rancher has a line of people (out of staters & locals) who want hunting access, many of those who get it ruin it for others sooner or later.
We also have the usual crimes.
 
Josh,
Me and the wife will be retiring in about 4 years and can’t wait to get out of MD.
We have our sights set on Montana. I believe that they don’t tax retirement income? I hear the hunting isn’t bad either o_O
We’re hoping to get a somewhat secluded place but be within an hour or so from stores, medical, etc
Gary
 
Gary in MD said:
Josh,
We have our sights set on Montana. I believe that they don’t tax retirement income? I hear the hunting isn’t bad either o_O
Gary
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Well They Taxed Mine Here... And my wife's.. lol.. Eastern Montana equals Conservative. Western is Liberal... Damn Komiefornians ruining it..
 
My wife and I go to the Star Valley area nearly every year for a camping vacation. You'd be hard pressed to find a prettier place! The wild flowers are almost unbelievable in May and June as well as the greenery! Alpine WY is one of my favorite locations.

Another favorite is Idaho! Just east of Ketchum or Sun Valley is awesome but so is North west of the Star Valley WY into Idaho.

Flaming Gorge Utah, the mountains just south of.

The White mountains of eastern AZ near NM is another pretty place.
 
My son lived in Cody for three years, loved the ability to fly in to either Cody or Billings. Great and friendly people there, regret that I did not buy his house by the lake off South Fork when he moved. Great place to hunt antelope and deer, and fly fish. Great place to go hiking or four wheeling. Great hospital that took great care of my wife when she broke her ankle. Great museum. Great rodeo.

The wind blows like you are at the beach in S Texas. First time I visited Zachary in Cody we built a wind screen on his back patio so we could BBQ in the wind, problem solved (but also had to bolt down the picnic table.)

Considering moving from crowded Texas to Cody buying a heavier coat, and a fur wheeler.
 
Part of our family lives in Dallas. Dallas is getting inundated with immigrants and getting bluer by the year. Its what the Dems want..... immigration = Democratic votes. Go figure.
 
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