Berger packaging

[KevinThomas]

Its a mass produced bullet by a corporation. They are going to save money like every other company does. Youll see cardboard boxes soon.

Not very likely: the old cardboard or fiberboard boxes like Sierra used to use were FAR more expensive than the plastic boxes they’ve gone to since. By a factor of several times. As for the inner bags and going back to them, I’ll pass that along, but obviously, I’m just a customer these days for whatever that’s worth.

 

[KevinThomas]

Interesting thread, anyone up for rewriting the Economics 101 textbook?
Aside that, am still surprised Bergers are in a plastic box. The vast majority are in cardboard, some of it pretty thin.

Interesting quote for your signature line. Great movie, too, especially if you’re into Russian history.

 

[hogpatrol]

There's always Swift bullets. When it comes to packaging, they go the extra mile. Each bullet is in its own compartment separated from the other bullets, no beating and banging around like those other brands. I bought a couple different types of 6.5s to try and one of them had a styrofoam insert and each bullet sat in it's own pocket. The other was like an
ammo box with plastic dividers.

 

[carlsbad]

The contention is that it will affect accuracy. If it does, then in the internet age, one or two bad reviews on key websites and the entire community will start buying bullets elsewhere...Berger should know this.

 

[BenPerfected]

Most folks that can shoot the difference in a damaged bullet already uses custom bullets- i think thats where the lack of interest is coming from. The majority of their customers would shoot them and keep buying them if they came loose in a flat rate envelope- and never know the difference. Some wouldnt shoot them if they came individually boxed in fitted foam- i just dont think economics will let them change for the better, itll always be the cheaper route im afraid.

Same reason that most shooters don’t invest in custom bullets,.....it’s all about the $.
Ben

 

[KevinThomas]

Just had a quick, text with Adam, and he said they are still packaging bulk bullets in plastic inner bags, no change inn that regard. Not sure what the issue may have been that brought out the complaint, but they should still be adequately packaged to prevent shipment damage.

Hope that helps.

 

[deadidarren]

Believe it or not, the tip isn't near as important as the dings it gets on the back edge of the boatail. Matt

Yes I was going bring up that I would be more worried about dents in the pressure ring area .

 

[dcali]

Just had a quick, text with Adam, and he said they are still packaging bulk bullets in plastic inner bags, no change inn that regard. Not sure what the issue may have been that brought out the complaint, but they should still be adequately packaged to prevent shipment damage.

Hope that helps.

On a related note, in another thread, you mentioned the relative fragility of bullets as it pertains to handling, polishing, etc. Could you expand on that a bit? How much accuracy degredadtion would you say there is between fresh off the press and typical retail condition? And what sorts of damage do you think causes that degredation?

 

[Fotheringill]

The last lot of 224 80g came in a big box like the 7mm stuff with a heap of the folded foam .
If they are going to use the bigger box they should put 200 pills in it and charge appropriately.

The 1000 count .223 Bergers are already in a cardboard box with the very heavy plastic bag inside.

 

[Gappmast]

I don't see where the plastic bag adds any more protection than the plastic box. I understand the plastic bag with the 1000 count and a cardboard box. The cardboard box is more likely to be torn and the bag will keep them from spilling.

 

[newbieshooter]

Just had a quick, text with Adam, and he said they are still packaging bulk bullets in plastic inner bags, no change inn that regard. Not sure what the issue may have been that brought out the complaint, but they should still be adequately packaged to prevent shipment damage.

Hope that helps.

For the 500 count boxes (old and new) - yes bulk bullets are packed plastic inner bags. I believe the OP was pointing out the difference in how the bullets are packaged within the plastic bag.

Over the years I have opened many 500 round boxes of Berger Bullets. It was a small pain in the A to cut the clear tape untwist the oversized bag and get to the goodies inside. Well no more to my dismay a friend opened one yesterday and found the bullets rolling loosely in a sealed package. .........

I think this is what the OP was referring to:




The old packaging was wound tight - bullets could barely move relative to each other in the bag during shipment.

 

[KevinThomas]

On a related note, in another thread, you mentioned the relative fragility of bullets as it pertains to handling, polishing, etc. Could you expand on that a bit? How much accuracy degredadtion would you say there is between fresh off the press and typical retail condition? And what sorts of damage do you think causes that degredation?

Not looking to hijack the thread here, and believe me, there’s mor than enough material on that topic to keep a lengthy thread of its own going for a good many pages. Suffice it to say, bullets can be/are pretty delicate, and rough handling is always to be discouraged.

 

[hogpatrol]

Well I guess the old bag aficionados can really get p.o.-ed now. The new boxes are smaller in all three dimensions than the old ones! How dare they scrunch the same amount of bullets in a smaller box! Not the bulk box but maybe those also are smaller?



Hmm, smaller box, less rattling, no need for the plastic bag, better for the bottom line.
Yep, that'll work.

 

[calgarycanada]

And then there are top shooters who intentionally bang their bullets with steel balls while putting coating on and they don’t have no issues with damaged bullets.
Age of internet, makes it easy to complain. This is great, Now I can blame my bad wind calls and bad shooting fundamentals on Berger’s new way of packaging bullets.

 

[dcali]

Not looking to hijack the thread here, and believe me, there’s mor than enough material on that topic to keep a lengthy thread of its own going for a good many pages. Suffice it to say, bullets can be/are pretty delicate, and rough handling is always to be discouraged.

For those interested, I've started a new thread on the topic of bullet damage here: http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/bullet-damage-from-processing-and-handling.3973150/

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

For the 500 count boxes (old and new) - yes bulk bullets are packed plastic inner bags. I believe the OP was pointing out the difference in how the bullets are packaged within the plastic bag.



I think this is what the OP was referring to:

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The old packaging was wound tight - bullets could barely move relative to each other in the bag during shipment.

Hallelujah someone can actually read. That is exactly what I was talking about.

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

Not looking to hijack the thread here, and believe me, there’s mor than enough material on that topic to keep a lengthy thread of its own going for a good many pages. Suffice it to say, bullets can be/are pretty delicate, and rough handling is always to be discouraged.

Absolutely correct

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

And then there are top shooters who intentionally bang their bullets with steel balls while putting coating on and they don’t have no issues with damaged bullets.
Age of internet, makes it easy to complain. This is great, Now I can blame my bad wind calls and bad shooting fundamentals on Berger’s new way of packaging bullets.

Probably not just your lack of knowledge.

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

Well I guess the old bag aficionados can really get p.o.-ed now. The new boxes are smaller in all three dimensions than the old ones! How dare they scrunch the same amount of bullets in a smaller box! Not the bulk box but maybe those also are smaller?

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Hmm, smaller box, less rattling, no need for the plastic bag, better for the bottom line.
Yep, that'll work.

I don't think I ever found a plastic bag inside of the plastic box there was some foam that kept the bullets consolidated. But if they made the Box smaller and the bullets don't chatter around themselves should be good.

 

[KMart]

Yes I was going bring up that I would be more worried about dents in the pressure ring area .

Wouldn't the bullet be swagged to the shape of your barrel in the first couple inches of travel upon firing? And the pressure ring will be the diameter of the barrel lands.